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jpab924 · Last edited by jpab924 on Mon Dec 09, 2002 11:36 am; edited 1 time in total

Ok. Let me begin....I went to work today and decided to browse the paper to see if any 924s` were for sale in my area. I saw an ad that read:

79 924 turbo for sale
needs clutch, has been in storage for 15 yrs.

So in my excitement I thought oh wow a 931....maybe something else I could restore and add to my 924 collection. So I called the guy and told him I`d be there after work to check it out...he said no prob. he was hanging x-mas lights. So I hurry up and get my stuff done at work ( excited the whole time) and call the wife and tell her I was going to be late and was helping a friend with a car.(little white lie)

Ok...so I get there and start poking around. I took a look around the outside and the body on the car is pretty straight...no major damage and definetly salvagable. I took a look at the hood and noticed that it did not have the 931 hood, but had the turbo header panel. I opened the hood and discovered that it was actually an aftermarket BAE turbo installed on the car. So after looking at the vin plate it actually is a 78 with the BAE turbo added to it.

I believe the motor is locked up but everything seems to be intact, other than it looks like it could be and electrical challenge.

What I`m getting at is, do any of you guys have any experience with this add on turbo, and after sitting for 15 yrs do you think its any good? What exactly should I look for? Should I take the chance and buy the car for 500.00? it looks like it was done right....but I`m not exactly sure what to look for on the electrical side of the this mod.

I may be able to recoup some of the money I spend on the car by parting it out....but I`d hate to be stuck with an aftermarket turbo system I know nothing about.

If any of you guys know anything about this type of mod. let me know....seeing that it was done probably 20 yrs ago maybe some of you guys that have been around 924s` for awhile would know something about this. thanks...

ltgland · Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 7:00 pm Post subject:

I would say
"not a real 931" maybe as a parts car, but dont know if $500 is a lot for that

Geddy T · Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 149 Location: Bellingham, WA

You'd have a hell of a time getting it running. The CIS does not like sitting for long periods of time. And 15 years is three times as long as mine sat. Expect a TOTAL overhaul. Parts may be cool, but why do the work for that little of a return when cyber panhandling is so much easier and profitable as it turns out?

924 turbo · Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 9:29 pm Post subject:

If your intent is to use the BAE kit on your 924, I say go for it. There are virtually no cheap mods for the 924 that make a measureable difference, and certainly none that are going to be as cheap as the BAE kit you've stumbled across and actually make power. It may need a new turbocharger, but it uses a standard 4-bolt mount, and you can find a replacement for almost nothing.

The BAE kit is pretty inefficient, as it has no wastegate and simply regulates boost by bleeding it off with a pressure relief valve. IMO, it's a lousy kit when compared to the factory 931 installation. That being said, you could probably find an internal wastegate turbo to use, and have a pretty decent kit. The BAE, if I remember correctly, uses no fuel mods of any kind, and the boost is regulated to a pretty low level. Higher levels of boost might require fuel mods.

I think the BAE cars were only slightly slower than the factory 931's.

Let me put it this way:

You could install a BAE kit, unmodified...

Or, you could buy euro pistons, buy a Eurorace big valve head and have it ported and polished, swap over to carbs, replace the cam, install a header, and replace the entire exhaust.

Either way, you'll make about the same amount of power. You could just have that $2000 difference to spend on something else.
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Joes924Racer · Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 4:59 am Post subject:

Its not a real turbo ..no turbo head its been sitting for 15 yrs. Just depends on what kind of storage its been in seems to me its not a real turbo why bother.
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jpab924 · Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2002 12:10 pm Post subject:

Yes Jon, those are my exact intentions.....swap over the turbo kit onto my car.

I already have dual webers sitting on the shelf, cam ground for the carbs, and 9.3:1 euro pistons on their way. I don`t have the eurorace head however, and I am sure that would run a pretty penny for one of those.

So all in all, even if I have to replace the turbo, it seems like I have come across a good find. The seller did mention that this car was used on road courses so I can be sure the turbo was spun consistently at some pretty high rpms. I also noticed it had a dial-a-cam sprocket on it which probably alone is worth 100.00 bucks. Supposedly there is a nice cam in it too. And exhaust appears to have been uprgraded. Whomever did this upgrade seems to have known what they were doing.

As for the rest of the car, the body looks pretty solid with no major rust or dents. It has about a sliver dollar size hole in the battery box. Like I mentioned earlier the engine appears to be locked up so lets just say its gone. I probably have enough parts to put an engine together for this one, but I`m not too sure what I would do with the car as of yet. As far as the fuel system goes, I`m sure from the tank up to the injectors would need a complete overhaul. Not a problem, I have plenty of spare parts in the attic.

The interior isn`t in too bad of shape, but is a little rougher than mine. It has the checkerboard seat covers and rear seat looks to be in good shape. Dash is cracked of course.

So for $500.00 is it worth it? I guess I will have to wait and see....I`ll go and take another look at the car and haggle with the guy and see what I can get it for

Diesel · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1061 Location: Ellington,CT

There has to be some fuel mod done for this kit. Adding a turbo without adding extra fuel to the mix when it pressurises the cylinders means a lean running engine. Pinging at the VERY least.
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Geddy T · Joined: 10 Nov 2002 Posts: 149 Location: Bellingham, WA

...sitting for 15 YEARS....
wheel bearings
fuel distributor
fuel tank
fuel anything, for that matter

just be ready

Lizard · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 2:08 am Post subject:

well for $500 if u can convince the wife go for it, as for the BAE turbo end talk to Alex roy www.alexroy.net he has one on his NA, if you don't want the turbo kit I am sure you can sell it and get a pretty penny for it, I believe the last time I saw one on ebay it went for $500 itself. besides if you need an exhaust manifold I have one off an 80 for sale. hell even if you don't restore it and part it out you could easily get your money back out of it
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81turbo · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 1065 Location: Oakland, CA

Honestly the BAE kit is probably the only way that you are going to be able to pull any decent power out of the NA 924. That upgrade is most likely worth more than a full rebuild with higher compression pistons a port and polish yada yada yada.

jpab924 · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:24 am Post subject:

Ok, I bought the car for $400.00 and will pick it up this weekend. And will be putting it in my friends barn until I can get to it in the spring.

In the meantime, I will have to some research on the BAE turbo setup. I noticed from a few old posts alot of the guys did not like this system. They were talking about the motors blowing up....and a few of the guys did actually like the system....anyone know where I could find an installation manual for this system?? Seems like they stopped making these kits in the early 80`s.

Joes924Racer · Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 11:36 am Post subject:

See if alex roy will help hes tryin to run a bea turbo also seems to know some about them. you can find his name under members joe .

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1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo.

jpab924 · Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 9:11 am Post subject:

I will be paying for the car tonite (mon 10th dec) and hopefully picking it up this coming weekend. I`ll take some pics so you guys can see the disaster I picked up.

AFBCamaro · Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 199 Location: Orlando, FL

I think its a great deal!!! Great find.

If you get "bored" of the turbo kit I am the first to call it!!

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jpab924 · Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:04 am Post subject:

After paying for the car last night (mon) I rumaged around to see what kind of "goodies" I could find in the car. Lo and behold the original turbo installation manual was in the trunk.

Also found 2 front nose masks, which I will probably never use ( I think they look horrid) And 2 cloth seat covers with porsche embroidered in them....ehhh.....I`ll throw them in the wash and see how they turn out .

hopefully I can post some pics this weekend .

get your carbs yet afb? How is making the manifold going?