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Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Hi anyone with info, I am from US and do not want the black EPA smog helicopters swarming my house to impound my car, but trying to find some info if anyone knows anything about the early 924S production. The car has a single digit VIN. Translates to 1987 924S on vin decoders. The however is it is a ZZZ Tub on the firewall. The sticker under hood shows 1985 build with vin on the decal. The vin on windshield support and title is AAO vin. So this seems interesting to me as to a factory car with both vins on the car. All other digits match and car is un altered very clean low mile california car, so know it has not been stolen or cut and have full ownership history.

any one have any idea if Porsche sent out press cars early, or special order and grabbed a RoW tub, or? Thanks Tim

edredas · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC

There were a few early 924S with 1984 build dates handed to the press. They are easy to spot as they had the 944 fascia/dashboard (People assume oval dash, but this was 1984 so we are talking yellow gauges). I have some pictures of them somewhere...

I've actually seen a few prototypes in person. So while they might be built in 1984 they would be a MY1985. Prototypes were always whatever the current Model Year was for the production cars being built and didn't skip years. Porsche wouldn't have any idea in 1985 what a MY1987 would look like, so it is more likely you have a 1986 build. That would explain the low digit VIN number. Alot of prototypes have things production cars didn't have; like yellow gauges and early rain rails. Things that even the 1985 built production car didn't have.

Also, the digits on the firewall aren't the VIN, so all cars have "ZZZ" there...

I hope that helps!
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'84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
'88 924S -Red, Daily Driver

Rasta Monsta · Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW

Interesting. . .85 build would not be a US car. . .

Pics?
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WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3

Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Thank you so much for the information!!! The tag under hood shows 12/85 build date, so I assumed not a US car build, but the vin shows US model as do the decals for US smog etc., but 1985 to 1987 seems like quite a gap for a production car. I have had another low vin car that became very valuable after I sold it, so want to do some research before accidentally sell this car or make a track car etc. as single digit Vins do not seem to make it to the public very often it has seemed from my experience. I do not think this is early 924s, but early 924S US car, not that would matter to anyone.

Not clever enough to figure out how to post pics, will keep trying. Tim

edredas · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC

Rasta Monsta · Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW

Actually ROW production of the 924 never stopped, they just switched to "S" upgrades for 86 model year (in other words, there were ROW 2.0 models for 83-85).
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WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3

Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Thanks for the help and info. I need to find another US 924S and see what the firewall has for numbers as I am used to everything matching.

edredas · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC

Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Oh my gosh, that is great, so good to know as do not want to sell if vins did not match without knowing background.

Can you send pic of the vin on the windshield post? How are you posting pics?

edredas · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC

Here's the VIN on my 924S' A-pillar.

Also, here is an example from a US 944.

To post photos you need to create a photobucket or similar account and simply paste the IMG code where the arrow is into the text block on this site.

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'84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
'88 924S -Red, Daily Driver

Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Interesting the vin and tub are different numbers in space 3 to 6 and nine. Just have not encountered that before. Relieved it is not some vin thing I need to worry about some exuberant officer will impound my car for.

Do you know of any other low vin cars in US? I found a registry or two but the lowest number was in high hundreds as I recall.

I am used to single digit vin cars usually being crash test dummy's, test cars etc and not usually get out to public so wondering if that did not happen in the 924S as maybe a continuation car? Thanks for all your help, thoughts and input. Tim

OK lets see if pic idea works:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/345651340127114163/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/345651340127114175/

Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Have been chasing history thru known owners and first owner sounds like may not have been first owner, so info trail I have been chasing appears to have dried up.

It does not have yellow gages, and from what I see so far from all your help it is appearing to be normal stuff. I have found a few things not where I have found info on them on line like location of Computer box and such, but that may be variation on the 924S vs 944 or 924, just can not tell yet without another 924S to review. I really appreciate all your help guys! Tim

edredas · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC

Nice!

I don't suppose December 1985 would be too far off if they were trying to make sure the press had them to review before they hit showrooms by June 1986?

I can't say for certain what is going on, or say that I've ever seen a 924S with a VIN that low. Maybe someone here has. That said, despite the low VIN, the 924S was already in production many months before your car was built. So, it is likely the same as the other production cars, and to my knowledge, no production 924S ever came with the silver 944 fascia, yellow gauges, or early rain rails; ect...

Thanks for sharing and I would like to see more pics if you have them!
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'84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
'88 924S -Red, Daily Driver

Tim · Joined: 14 Apr 2015 Posts: 10 Location: California

Here are a few more misc shots per your request. Actually making progress on talking to prior owners and have service records being shipped, so that is nice to add to cars history. Tim

[url]https://www.pinterest.com/pin/345651340127122672/[/url]

[url]https://www.pinterest.com/pin/345651340127122694/[/url]

edredas · Joined: 09 Dec 2004 Posts: 861 Location: Charlotte, NC

Here's a picture I took of Ideola checking out 944 turbo 0014. I just thought I would share since we were on the subject of low VIN cars.

This car was quite unique and not like the other production 944 turbos.

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'84 944 -White, Brown interior
'84 944 -Red, Automatic
'86 944 -Garnet, Fully loaded, Koni suspension
'87 924S -Red, 300hp 951 swap
'87 924S -Red, Project Car
'88 924S -Red, Daily Driver