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Pumba
Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Poland
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:02 pm Post subject: 924 80' N/A EFI, ITB |
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Hi!
I thought I'd share some information about my project with you.
A year ago, I started a race car project... For that purpose I bought a very cheap 924 ( for about 800 Euro ) It stood for 10 years not driven, kept outside, the paintwork was ( and still is ) terrible, interior could only be thrown away, the engine took huge amounts of oil...
A couple days ago, I finished the interior and engine works, and now it looks like that:
It now has 330lbs spring with GAZ shock on the front, and the 500lbs GAZ Shocks Coil-Over on the rear. 5 lug suspension from an early 944. Full roll cage.
The engine is running on EMU, Polish alternative for MegaSquirt.
Right now I'm struggling with tuning the engine ( the car is currently quicker than a standard 924, so I think I'm on a right path ) and since it is my first attempt doing a EFI conversion, I think I may need some help from more experienced colleagues... |
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peterld
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 981 Location: Noosa Heads QLD Australia
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome! Looks great, particularly the roll cage fitment, especially through the engine bay. _________________ 80/81 932/8 ROW |
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Horizonblue

Joined: 13 Oct 2011 Posts: 307 Location: Sorring city, Denmark, Europe
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Such a nice clean engine bay is usually carburetted, thumbs up for going EFI, looks very good.
Maybe there would be a benefit if you made some kind of plenum with a hose away from the engine, to draw more cold air, instead of the individual filters.
Anyway, a very good job on that car  _________________ Euro 924, 1976
"If you can't fix it, don't break it"
/P.G. Andersen |
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GeorgeV

Joined: 14 Mar 2010 Posts: 306 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Pumba
Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Poland
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks.
I thought about building a plenum, but for now it will stay this way, I want to install a turbo badge panel, so there will be a bit more ventilation.
Yesterday I have adjusted the ITB's to have same amount of vacuum on each cylinder, which resulted in getting a very smooth idle and acceleration while not on WOT.
For now the most important thing is the ignition table...
I run the engine on Alpha-N algorithm with MAP based ignition.
I'll post my ignition table later today, I wonder what will experts say  |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:34 am Post subject: |
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Very, very nice.
Can we have a closeup pic showing what you did with the center console? _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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macBdog

Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 1111 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Great job, very neat! Would love to see more pics pre and post build please. _________________ 1979 931 with a 350 chev
1973 911E with EFI
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Shurick

Joined: 15 May 2005 Posts: 524 Location: Russia, Moscow.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:48 am Post subject: |
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Nice and clean job!
Personally I don't think that MAP as a load factor is good enough for NA ITB ignition map. You can see atmospheric pressure in hi-load modes all the time.
I'd prefer TPS as an engine load. _________________ WBR, Shurick
'79 931 -- intercooled K26-3060-6.10 turbo @ 1.2 bar, EFI+EDIS, 951S brakes, stripped interior, 951 look.
'86 924S -- R.I.P.
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Pumba
Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Poland
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Thanks again.
I will switch to pure alpha-n, when I finally get a 'longer' camshaft.
For now I have very fine readings from MAP.
A bit of the history, by request:
When bought... The interior was fully 'customized' by the previous owner. Destroyed would probably be a better word though...
But, the exterior luckily looked still like a 924.
Soon, we found out how the car looked years ago, such a shame to destroy the black-white pasha interior...
3 days after purchasing, the interior was stripped and cleaned:
After that, we started to work on the engine... The head was refurbished, all seals went new, but the bottom was untouched ( which later appeared to be a mistake ). We were in hurry to finish the car before the biggest gathering of Transaxles in Poland, also a TrackDay...
Then, the 5-lug suspension went in ( did some painting of the chassis to, because the amount of putty on the sides was huge and it finally fell of creating quite nasty holes... )
Riddiculously high the car was back then... But not for long!
The GAZ setup for the rear axle arrived!
The front setup arrived about a week before the TrackDay, but were worth waiting for. Front suspension setup was built by our master-magician, mechanic from Warsaw.
It started to look bad-ass...
With the hard suspension setup, standard seats were no longer an option, so i borrowed a nicer one from my friend...
Then, just a day before the party began, I got the Michelin slicks...
And the car did great (That's the co-owner and co-creator by the wheel) :
We had some technical issues ( also called 'drivers impotence' ), which prevented us from racing for the podium, but still, the car was great...
And that ended the 2013 season... 2014 season works... soon  |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:40 am Post subject: |
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wow two toofahs on the same track! _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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markrnorton
Joined: 12 Apr 2014 Posts: 19 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Hi, what throttle bodies did you use ? |
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Very nice !
I'll try to join the next year's meet..looks fun !  _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Door cards A+ _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Mars478

Joined: 02 Nov 2013 Posts: 222 Location: NY
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Looks great! Good job  _________________ 924, 82, 5 speed, dark red, 500 dollar special.
Daily: 99 ML320, 210k and still trucking. |
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Pumba
Joined: 22 Feb 2013 Posts: 11 Location: Poland
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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The ITB's are GSX-R 600 ( I think K2 or K3 model - the later ones have different design and they cannot be separated individually )
Morghen, you are welcome. It seems that this year there will be no official season-end meeting in Czestochowa, but I'm forcing an idea of a season-end Track Day in Koszalin on 12-14.09.
The door cards are made of 2mm HIPS.
Right now I'm trying to set up a plan for head modifications. Bigger Valves, longer camshaft, solid lifters... Probably I'll have to shave the block off to rise the CR. Right now I'm waiting for a reply from CatCams.
After the head is finished I plan to dyno it.
Lately I drove a friend-of-mines 944T running on 1bar boost... I think finally I will go turbo way too, but first I'll try to put maximum from the 'ole N/A. |
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