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MikeDanger  



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: KEYS.... Reply with quote

So I had 2 new keys made..... They dont work that well, WTF??? I already bent one trying to open the rear hatch. it wouldn't turn the lock, finally figured out I was just twisting the key.

whats the deal? and where do you get strong keys?

the look like they were made correctly.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porsche dealer or ebay
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I recommend the "stealership" too often, but for keys that is where I would go. Or through a reputable reseller or fellow PCA club member.

Just my two cents.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

key material has to be soft(er)...otherwise the lock would wear out.

maybe the guy did not take the burrs off the new keys?
run a wire brush on them and perhaps give them a good scrible with a screwdriver to chamfer the sharp edges.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://garage.ideola.com/prod-ElectricsUpgrades.html#Keys

That's where I'll be buying my replacement keys from.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New keys are not made from the same quality steel they used to be. We had a stock of old keys and they were a lot harder than the new ones off the boards. However if the key is not turning at all then it hasn't been cut properly. In any case I would give the whole locking system a good lube It probably hasn't been done for thirty years.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my 88 both original keys occasionally will not turn the ignition switch until I jiggle them several times. Seems to have nothing to do with the steering column lock since moving the steering wheel doesn't help. I have applied graphite powder to the tumblers, any other ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many key cutting places do a poor job of maintaining their equipment, so the "copy" actually isn't. To work in a good quality lock a key must be accurate to within a thou or so. I found I have to go to a real locksmith to get good keys cut for my 924 and my Mitsubishi.
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!tom  



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spandelly wrote:
New keys are not made from the same quality steel they used to be.

I've seen OE keys made of aluminum (obviously the intent was that they only be used as a master and not for use in the vehicle) and keys made of brass.

Steel is not a good material for a key.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got all of my keys made by this place. They were great to work with. It just takes a long time to get them because they are in Australia. They don't have OEM Porsche blanks but the ones that they have are very high quality steel keys. I had them make ign/door/glove box and alarm keys.

http://www.keys4classics.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had someblanks from the Porsche shop uk and they were as good as the original.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you making a copy of a worn out key? Cutting a key from a worn out key will not give you an accurate profile on the key so it won't mate to the lock like it should.
Is it all the locks or just the hatch?
Have you tried lubing the locks?
Push down on the hatch before you turn the key, it may be the mechanism not the key & lock.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops. D.p.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Scirocco came with one ridiculously worn out key.

It barely worked with my ignition so I figured it would be smart to get another one cut. I was pretty worried that they wouldn't be able to make a working replica as the key was just so worn out.

It took the guy 25 minutes of running back and forth between his cutter and my car. After about five different cuts he managed to get a perfect key.

To this day I still have no clue how he managed to do it. He must be a key god.

Here's a pic. Guess which one is the new one.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brother's a locksmith and I've heard a few stories about bad keys. But it's like any trade; if you know what you're working with really well, you know what moving it just a tiny bit this way will do. For example, I've seen a locksmith open a safe with a knocked wheel after I told him what the combination should be. I was seriously impressed.

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