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MikeDanger

Joined: 21 Nov 2002 Posts: 774 Location: Denver
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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 6:15 pm Post subject: KEYS.... |
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So I had 2 new keys made..... They dont work that well, WTF??? I already bent one trying to open the rear hatch. it wouldn't turn the lock, finally figured out I was just twisting the key.
whats the deal? and where do you get strong keys?
the look like they were made correctly. _________________ It was either this or a giant box of legos |
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emoore924
Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2822
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Porsche dealer or ebay  |
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MikesCoupeGT

Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:02 am Post subject: |
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Not that I recommend the "stealership" too often, but for keys that is where I would go. Or through a reputable reseller or fellow PCA club member.
Just my two cents. _________________ Cheers;
MikesCoupeGT
'76 924
'83 944
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morghen

Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9102 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:32 am Post subject: |
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key material has to be soft(er)...otherwise the lock would wear out.
maybe the guy did not take the burrs off the new keys?
run a wire brush on them and perhaps give them a good scrible with a screwdriver to chamfer the sharp edges. _________________ Supercharger and EFI kits
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Power Tryp

Joined: 16 Apr 2009 Posts: 435 Location: Calgary, Alberta
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spandelly

Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 23 Location: Manchester England
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 7:30 am Post subject: |
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New keys are not made from the same quality steel they used to be. We had a stock of old keys and they were a lot harder than the new ones off the boards. However if the key is not turning at all then it hasn't been cut properly. In any case I would give the whole locking system a good lube It probably hasn't been done for thirty years. _________________ It could always be worse so don't worry about it and get the spanners out |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:25 am Post subject: |
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On my 88 both original keys occasionally will not turn the ignition switch until I jiggle them several times. Seems to have nothing to do with the steering column lock since moving the steering wheel doesn't help. I have applied graphite powder to the tumblers, any other ideas? _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
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SilverGhost

Joined: 16 Mar 2011 Posts: 56 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Many key cutting places do a poor job of maintaining their equipment, so the "copy" actually isn't. To work in a good quality lock a key must be accurate to within a thou or so. I found I have to go to a real locksmith to get good keys cut for my 924 and my Mitsubishi. _________________ "Priscilla" 1981 924 NA RoW auto, metallic blue
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!tom

Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 1941 Location: Victoria, BC Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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| spandelly wrote: | | New keys are not made from the same quality steel they used to be. |
I've seen OE keys made of aluminum (obviously the intent was that they only be used as a master and not for use in the vehicle) and keys made of brass.
Steel is not a good material for a key. _________________ 78 924 NA
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v8carreragts

Joined: 05 Sep 2003 Posts: 665 Location: Tucson, AZ
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Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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I got all of my keys made by this place. They were great to work with. It just takes a long time to get them because they are in Australia. They don't have OEM Porsche blanks but the ones that they have are very high quality steel keys. I had them make ign/door/glove box and alarm keys.
http://www.keys4classics.com/ _________________ 84 944--924 Carrera GTS clone w/520HP Chevy 302 V8--RUNNING!
2015 AUDI Q7
2013 Dodge Charger R/T AWD HEMI
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musicalannette
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 413 Location: UK
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I had someblanks from the Porsche shop uk and they were as good as the original. _________________ I KNEW white wall tyres were invented by Americans .....just not at Boeing.... to be fitted on the 737..... |
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jason c
Joined: 13 Jan 2014 Posts: 1018 Location: Nwi
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Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Are you making a copy of a worn out key? Cutting a key from a worn out key will not give you an accurate profile on the key so it won't mate to the lock like it should.
Is it all the locks or just the hatch?
Have you tried lubing the locks?
Push down on the hatch before you turn the key, it may be the mechanism not the key & lock. |
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jason c
Joined: 13 Jan 2014 Posts: 1018 Location: Nwi
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xanderdeg

Joined: 08 Jul 2012 Posts: 286 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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My Scirocco came with one ridiculously worn out key.
It barely worked with my ignition so I figured it would be smart to get another one cut. I was pretty worried that they wouldn't be able to make a working replica as the key was just so worn out.
It took the guy 25 minutes of running back and forth between his cutter and my car. After about five different cuts he managed to get a perfect key.
To this day I still have no clue how he managed to do it. He must be a key god.
Here's a pic. Guess which one is the new one.
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staticsan
Joined: 19 Jan 2009 Posts: 450 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:57 am Post subject: |
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My brother's a locksmith and I've heard a few stories about bad keys. But it's like any trade; if you know what you're working with really well, you know what moving it just a tiny bit this way will do. For example, I've seen a locksmith open a safe with a knocked wheel after I told him what the combination should be. I was seriously impressed.
Wade. _________________ '82 British NA - Which I think I've been very lucky with! |
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