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Running a standard 932 in a hillclimb. Good or bad idea

 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Running a standard 932 in a hillclimb. Good or bad idea Reply with quote

Hi all

I am running the 924 Turbo in a Vintage Car Club hillclimb next weekend. Actually more of a sprint than a hillclimb as it had a big downhill bit and a great winding bit throigh some trees.

Any dos or don'ts? I really don't want to blow it up, nor to I want to disappear flat out into the trees!

Tyres are Bridgestone Potenzas - 205/60/15. What pressures should I use?

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not very experienced with trackdriving but i did go on some tracks a few times and i also did the Nurburgring. And my advice is: take it easy the first times.

It depends on the course you're taking..but if you dont drive the car often, dont push it "before/on/soon after" the corners.
Dont overstress the brakes on the way down.
Depending on how often and how you usually drive the car and the outside temps and road surface you can push it a bit or not at all.

If its your first time, then take it really easy...you dont have to win anything..remember you're there for the fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="morghen"]I'm not very experienced with trackdriving but i did go on some tracks a few times and i also did the Nurburgring. And my advice is: take it easy the first times.

It depends on the course you're taking..but if you dont drive the car often, dont push it "before/on/soon after" the corners.
Dont overstress the brakes on the way down.
Depending on how often and how you usually drive the car and the outside temps and road surface you can push it a bit or not at all.

If its your first time, then take it really easy...you dont have to win anything..remember you're there for the fun.[/quote

Thanks. I have driven far faster and more powerful cars, but not in competition. I had the 924 on the local track last week just to see what it was like and it seems the car is better than I am! The main thing I need to adjust to is turbo lag. I don't notice it on the road but it is furstrating coming out of a slow corner on the track and having to wait for the power to arrive
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's been a few years since I've watched a Vintage Car Club hillclimb, but from memory they're a lot less competitive than the normal Motorsport NZ sanctioned events, with an emphasis on fun and looking after your cars.

Just make sure all the basic maintenance has been done and don't push it too hard and you should be fine. As for tyre pressures don't go too high on NZ roads, as you need a bit of flex to cope with the conditions. I'd probably start around 30-33psi (cold) for road tyres and see how they go on the first run (we run lower pressures on Targa stages than track events).
Keep in mind that you don't have a cage as you're driving past the trees and it should slow you down to a safe speed!!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew NZ wrote:
It's been a few years since I've watched a Vintage Car Club hillclimb, but from memory they're a lot less competitive than the normal Motorsport NZ sanctioned events, with an emphasis on fun and looking after your cars.

Just make sure all the basic maintenance has been done and don't push it too hard and you should be fine. As for tyre pressures don't go too high on NZ roads, as you need a bit of flex to cope with the conditions. I'd probably start around 30-33psi (cold) for road tyres and see how they go on the first run (we run lower pressures on Targa stages than track events).
Keep in mind that you don't have a cage as you're driving past the trees and it should slow you down to a safe speed!!

As the person in control of all VCC speed events in NZ you can be sure I won't be doing anything foolish. I am going to look a prize dickhead if I have the steward I have appointed take my licence off me or send me home for over driving the car!
It will make a nice change to be sitting on the start line rather than sitting in race control
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you car is in good mechanical order you will have no trouble at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daniel wrote:
If you car is in good mechanical order you will have no trouble at all.


Right now it is at Autothority, the local Porsche experts getting a good checking over so all should be well.
And if it does go horribly wrong there will be a Gopro in the car to record it all...
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've got it at a mechanics shop, ask them to put a set of 'performance' pads on it. Thats about the only think you would actually need for a hill climb. IMHO other mods will only make you go faster, not more reliable.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

daniel wrote:
If you've got it at a mechanics shop, ask them to put a set of 'performance' pads on it. Thats about the only think you would actually need for a hill climb. IMHO other mods will only make you go faster, not more reliable.


The guy we bought the car from races 944s and 924s and this one already has race pads it. It it really noticeable how much better they feel once they are properly hot.
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