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Captain_Kirk

Joined: 17 Dec 2009 Posts: 243 Location: Colbert, WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Damn it Jim.. I'm not a doctor!!
These torsion bars are kickin my arse.
I've read about that 5-lug set up there in Portland for sale, cost as much as my 924 did. That may be further down the line, let me see how sucky the brakes are at an autocross. I have some front body work I'd like to tend to first.
The later suspension plan will be some Weltmeister springs up front, drop it the 1-1/4", new bushings, struts and shocks. And once again, reindex the rear. So fiat22turbo, those 944 torsions would be a good match for the new front springs.
I have a mechanic buddy that has some old VW Beetles, that looks like the same type of torsion bar set up, I'll see if he can do it.
I dropped my Saab down in an afternoon and a six-pack so I have the know-how.
When I got into this hobby, they said there would be no math.  _________________ 1977 924na BlackSeaRD.com Torque Tube SuperBearings, Xenon air dam, 200# Weltmeister springs, Bursch header, 944 exhaust, Audi throttle body |
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fiat22turbo

Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 4040 Location: Portland, OR
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Captain_Kirk

Joined: 17 Dec 2009 Posts: 243 Location: Colbert, WA
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | "Banana" or Torsion bar carrier arms to body (top of the rear wheel well) bolts/nuts. |
Don't have those. Will that matter? _________________ 1977 924na BlackSeaRD.com Torque Tube SuperBearings, Xenon air dam, 200# Weltmeister springs, Bursch header, 944 exhaust, Audi throttle body |
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Andrew NZ

Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 744 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain_Kirk wrote: | | Quote: | | "Banana" or Torsion bar carrier arms to body (top of the rear wheel well) bolts/nuts. |
Don't have those. Will that matter? |
No, the 77's are really easy to do - I have mine out at the moment, and once I had the axles disconnetced it only took about 10 minutes!
Just the 4 bolts holding the torsion bar carrier to the floor, lower shock mount bolts and brake lines to worry about. _________________ Andrew
1977 RX924 race car
12a bridgeport supercharged
www.race4-dcup.co.nz |
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pat_man
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 41 Location: Spokane, United States
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Andrew NZ wrote: | | Captain_Kirk wrote: | | Quote: | | "Banana" or Torsion bar carrier arms to body (top of the rear wheel well) bolts/nuts. |
Don't have those. Will that matter? |
No, the 77's are really easy to do - I have mine out at the moment, and once I had the axles disconnetced it only took about 10 minutes!
Just the 4 bolts holding the torsion bar carrier to the floor, lower shock mount bolts and brake lines to worry about. |
Sorry to bump an old thread, but once you've got it out, what do you do to lower it? |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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pat_man
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 41 Location: Spokane, United States
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:35 am Post subject: |
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| jeeze... I know some of those words. Mine is the early 77, and if I'm not mistaken I don't have that h bar? |
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pat_man
Joined: 19 Feb 2013 Posts: 41 Location: Spokane, United States
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone? Mine is early 77, and I'd love to get it a little lower. |
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MikeJinCO
Joined: 08 Jun 2010 Posts: 1246 Location: Maysville, Colorado
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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I have an early '77 and as Andrew said the carrier comes out easily. Getting it back in by myself took some artful jacking and blocking work. I put in 944 23.5mm torsion bars and the adjustable spring plates. They are just a bolt in.
I built simple wood stand to hold the carrier up so that I could take my time setting up the torsion bars. One trick is to measure the torsion bar drop with the shock disconnected before removing the carrier to get you a base point. While your in there replace to inner torsion bar rubber bushings with urethane ones from a Super Beetle(different than 944). The outer 944 bushings fit. Getting the old outer bushings off is a pain, many folks burn them off, but I cut them with a utility knife then heated the bushing with a propane torch and peeled them off.
I would also recommend putting some sway bar mounts on the carrier while it is out. I have 951 sway bars front and rear on mine with the stock front springs so it is pretty unbalanced spring wise. I haven't headed towards the 5 bolt setup as most folks around here want about $200 for both the front and back brake setups and the '77 also needs the front uprights as the spindles are smaller also. So combine that with wheels and you come up with a quick $1000. _________________ Mike
'67 MG Midget Dp
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Grenadiers
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 3222 Location: Nelson, WI & Prescott, AZ
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mike, if you come up for the engine, I have a 5-bolt set for cheap. _________________ '83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke |
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leadfoot

Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 2222 Location: gOLD cOAST Australia
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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So to get this sorted... if I have holes cut, I can remove bearing flange 15 by undoing the bushing mount bolt 19 & bolts on strut 22 (26,27,30A)
the whole lot should pop out free then...obviously supporting both the carrier tube and trailing arm in the process
and when doing opposite sides, do the inner and outer spline points get turned the opposite or same way...
i.e
left rear side
to drop 3/4" or 3 x 6.5mm approx or 3 x 50minute increments...
inner goes 3 splines CCW and outer gets 3 splines CW
right rear side
inner goes 3 splines CW and outer gets 3 splines CCW
sound about right??
 _________________ 1981 ROW 924 Turbo -
carbon fiber GT mish mash
LS1 conversion in progress... |
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