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Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

Hey Folks.

I want to modify my headlights. I see lots of people take the buckets out and put recessed lights in, but I think that looks kind of fruity and I think one of the things that make the 924 unique is that it has those pop-up lights. This design I think inspired many automakers to make cars that have similar design cues.

Has anyone here put in aftermarket lights, such as the ones from eBay? They even sell halo/angel eye lights

. I'd be curious to see what those look like on our cars.. I can't imagine they would look very good. One idea I've been tossing around is building a new bucket to house 2 smaller lights (http://www.evo-r.net/product/RX-7/CIMG4467.JPG) My fear with this is that the buckets for our lights are really big, and having two small lights in there might look really strange. Perhaps using long, narrow lights instead?
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ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

If you do some searches on the web, particularly on Rennlist and Pelican, you can find examples of guys who have done similar conversions and modified the lift mechanism so that it only goes up part way. This overcomes the issue of the headlight surround being square and having a narrow line of smaller lights.

In my opinion, though, this just ends up looking goofy, like a heavy-lidded or sleepy look. I think it's because of the dual angle on the headlight cover...when it's not up all the way, the angle at the front of the light cover is all wrong, like tilted down instead of horizontal.

When I first started thinking about headlight mods on my own projects, I was all hot to do dual projectors in a fixed headlight conversion. But the longer I've stayed with these cars, the more I really do not like modernizations to the classic lines. It's just my personal opinion, but modern wheels, modern ground effects, and other such modernizations to the cosmetics of the car almost always look bad.

A lot of it may be due to the poor execution of most owners who attempt them...so you shouldn't be dissuaded from trying...but I think Porsche really got it right when it comes to all the little details on the styling of these cars. I really like leaving the headlights and taillights alone...or at most doing the classic fixed headlight conversion as with the GTS or GTR. Everything else I've seen just doesn't quite cut it.
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Catamax944 · Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 140 Location: London UK

Deutsch nine did something like that ,looks ok but for the price i really don't think it's worth it http://www.deutschnine.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=porsche-transaxle&Product_Code=D9-944II951S2-DHLK&Category_Code=porsche-transaxle-944-turbo-s2-aero-dynamics
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Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

morghen · Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 9095 Location: Romania

Really? I have seen vw cars of that era...none have round bodies...all have sharp corners...i've owned an 85 audi it hase NOTHING to do with the 924

I think that even thar ugly 924 prototype looks nothing like any vw...but nothing like the 911 too
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Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

snakoil · Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 362 Location: Montreal, Canada

back when I had an isuzu piazza (isuzu impulse) with round headlights like on the 924, the hype was to change to globe with a suzuki bike light or bmw since those allowed mounting of a H1 bulb
for there you can get yourself an HID kit and make a conversion.
you would improve your lighting and not kill the stock look.

I have hard time finding the link between the B1 passat and 924

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Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

To each his own...but I also see no resemblance between the 924 and the VW Passat or Scirocco (or any other VW). In the case of Passat vs 924: Four door vs two door. Square hatch vs. bubbled glass. Dual fixed headlights vs single concealed headlights. Squared vs. Pointed nose. Wheel arches have completely different lines. The VW window lines are all completely angular (triangles or squares) whereas the 924 has rounded shapes. The 924 has completely different break lines in the body sheet metal. There is almost nothing similar about the two cars other than they were 4-bangers with a hatch.

Even the Scirocco looks completely different, although it follows a similar layout and formula, if not completely different lines.

Regardless of starting its life as a VW project, the 924 body work was indeed designed by Porsche from the get go, and is uniquely Porsche in aesthetic.

In fact, if you do your homework, you will see that Mr. Lagaay, the designer of the 924, never did any design work for VW, but in fact was on the 911 design team, as well as the 968, 993, 996, and others.

To say that the 924 and 928 do not resemble each other is also a very strange comment to me, as they look more alike (especially with the 968 interposed between them) than do the VW siblings Passat & Beetle (incidentally, the latter being another Porsche design).

We're all entitled to our opinions.

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Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

ideola · Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI

I didn't say there weren't similarities...there certainly are, particularly since they share a lot of common components...and in many regards to the benefit of us enthusiasts who are trying to keep these 30-year old Porsches on the road!

But from a design / aesthetic perspective? That's where, in my opinion, there is very little similarity.
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Bockscar · Joined: 16 Nov 2010 Posts: 392 Location: Sandy, Oregon

Harm · Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 1376 Location: Holland

…and let us not forget Anatole Lapine!
Porsche (studio) and Giorgetto Giugiaro are two totally different galaxies.

Anyway…

no

yep
Though …Brazil:
VW Germany couldn't stand it!

BTW: The early 924 clay models remind me of the Daytona…

HTH

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Raceboy · Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2327 Location: Estonia, Europe

One could always buy clear lens headlights meant for Golf 1, which are bolt on and provide much-much better lighting. They are cheap also, I bought mine for ~25 euros a piece.
Look very nice also and if one would want, they are available as tinted too.

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