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[Doodle]

Over the years I have seen the members of this board trash the honest efforts of many who have spent a lot of time and money restoring these old 924's. So before I go and embarrass myself by asking a what will be determined by board members to be ridiculous amount of money for my car I'll ask the experts.

Not that it matters, I was involved for a couple of years with the original 924.org and registry which preceded this message board. So I have seen a few of these cars and owners come and go. Now it`s my turn to go.

Please note when rendering an opinion as to the value of my car that all of the info I provide can be backed up by original invoices. When I say better than new I mean substantially improved over original specification with virtually every moving and non moving part having been replaced over the course of the 10 years I spent restoring my car. The list of replacement parts and improvements is too long for me to possibly include in 1 post so here are some of the highlights.

Motor
-Andial, 9.5:1 pistons
-Cometic head gasket
-mildly ported head
-integral stage 1 new billet cam
-and everything else that goes with above has less than 5,000 miles on it since completed. Starts and runs like new.

Body
-Aftermarket sun roof
-All new interior
-Mars Red color coat with 4 coats of clear.
-bottom of tub re-sealed with rubber undercoat.
-4 speed transmission Dealer rebuilt

In all over $40K invested in parts and countless hours of my time over 10 years to complete. So go ahead boys, trash away but please offer an opinion as well as to what it might be worth.
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Doodle
Pre 77.5 Mars Red

[daniel]

When I purchased my car it was close to the condition of yours but perhaps not quite there, it still had the orignal engine and gearbox (5 speed) but they were in fantastic condition. He asked $10000, I paid $6500 after 18 months for sale
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Over the top of skyline, total brake failure.... hit the wall at over 200 kp/h at the dipper, so anyone who has to brake for the esses is a pussy.
1977.5 Race Car, CAMS Group S Spec
1989 944 Cabriolet

[joejax]

Wow! Sounds like you have a real gem there, tons of hard work and determination, attention to every detail, a labor of love, I am sure.

I have always been a firm believer that these cars, in their original pristine state, should fetch a pretty penny, rarity in it's purist form, should be worth something.

Yet, most would agree, no matter how much money and effort is put into a vehicle, it is only worth what someone will pay. Sad really, for I believe these cars are on the brink
of greatness, soon many will see what we have seen all along.

I look forward to many pictures and documentations of the outstanding work involved in such a fine restoration. Best of luck in all of your endeavours.
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I got nothin'
Uhhh...you got any pics?

[emoore924]

I think the really good cars are making good money today. BUT they have to be exceptionally original or very special.

I think Brumos, or was it Champion, was selling a very original car recently. IIRC they were asking about 12k and it was on the market for a long time. I think the car (finally) sold for about 8K but don't quote me on that. If nothing else, they weathered the recent economic storm and ended with a sale.

As for your car, there are no pics and not that much detail, so you're making it hard to answer. But, I would say, in general, in the US, for dollars, the very, very best 924s are getting about 6-9k. Great cars are 3-5, average 1.5-3 and less than that are getting, well, less than that. 944s kind of cap the pricing.

These cars weren't selling *at all* a couple of years ago. But things have improved such that at least you can sell one if you're patient. But they really take the right buyer and the right price, and stick with it and you'll sell it...

GLWS

[CorsePerVita]

I paid $3k for my wife's toofah which is in fantasticalastical shape. But I hear prices in aussie land vs here are very different.
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- 1977 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (Trackday Project)
- 1979 Porsche 924 2.0 N/A (The other daily)
- 1980 Porsche 931 (Daily)
- 1987 Lamborghini Jalpa
- 1999 Ducati 900SS

[Khal]

[Doodle]

Thanks Khal for the "reality" check and your opinion of what the car might be worth. I don't see any where in my post that I asked anyone to render an opinion of me. Please check the definition of martyr.
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Doodle
Pre 77.5 Mars Red

[morghen]

Try selling it in germany, prices have gone quite high in the last years.
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Supercharger and EFI kits
https://www.the924.com

[Nobbi]

well.germany.Nice hint Morghen.If is has a aftermarket sunroof it is out of the business.Cam and headgasket? It isnt worth anythink without.
If it needs a rebuild gearbox it was dead before.A normal 4 speed gearbox (As my 1977 car has that i own since 23 years) is good for 300000km +-
If it is in exellent condition,with no cracks in dash,allnew interiour,Euro spec.bumpers.all original paint work,no dings or dongs ect. the max that you can get is about 11000.-euros
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NA 924 - april/1977- 4-speed-audi gearbox.
500.000 km with fun.....and new toy:Porsche 944 S2 Cabriolet.Other car Daimler c-class cabby,brandnew..Plus : DEUTZ 4005 tractor Built 1967

[Grenadiers]

Was thinking about this post the other day. I put the black '81 turbo car out in front of our restaurant for two weekends. Other than a couple kids wanting the keys, not, only had one older gentleman actually ask about it. Lowered the price to 4200 dollars for the second weekend, no bites. We serve about 650 people a weekend. Lots of people that own toys, cars, vintage stuff know of my Porsche hobby here. Not a bite.

Even my Craigslist ad over a two week period or so didn't even garner the usual scams! Hmpf! Plenty of hours and parts went into this car, and I think the 4200 is a fair price. So, unless the car is in the 2000 dollar range, most likely it's going to sit, here! Not that many 944's for sale in the area either, so not sure of the lack of interest.
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'83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke

[ideola]

Better than new? Says who? By what measure?

Unless the modifications were performed by a licensed independent Porsche specialist, it is highly doubtful that most buyers would consider the modifications to increase the value of the car.

Originality almost always trumps modifications when it comes to value, and it is exceedingly rare that modified cars ever fetch a fraction of the cost of the mods. In the minds of those who actually collect cars and pay top dollar for collectible models, modifications -- especially performance oriented mods -- usually indicate that the car was driven hard (if not outright abused), only further diluting the value. And I'm speaking in general terms here, not specific to the toofah.

As for the 924, the very best, unmolested, all original, low mileage (<50K miles) rarely go for much more than $5000, at least as far as I've been able to track it personally. There have been a few museum pieces like the one emoore cited that have purportedly sold for more, but actual sales figures for cars like that from outfits like Brumos are rarely published.

Sad to say, but IMHO your modified car is probably only worth $2000-$2500 on the open market.
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erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made

[CorsePerVita]

[Grenadiers]

I personally don't care for the 914, an 'acquired' taste! However, I see alot of them at the track down south. From oil burning stockers, 'spensive 911 owners hate these guys, to balls to the wall track rats, but no 924s, alas.
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'83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke

[Khal]

[Grenadiers]

Khal, tens of thousands? I bought the '88 924S for the 944Spec series, while we're in Arizona. I'm now thinking that buying someone elses 'project' or running car is cheaper in the long run. I don't have 'buddies', sniff, to work on these cars!
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'83 944 Track car.
'88 924S Track car.
'89 944 Turbo
2004 Winnebago Vectra monster RV
2012 Jeep Wrangler
2014 Kia Soul
2001 Ford F350 powerstroke