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the_mad_electrician
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I've been having funky electrical issues so I desided to take to fuse panel out and look at all the connections. After cleaning a few of the pins and reinstalling everything back where it was the car no longer runs! Damn
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the_mad_electrician
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:14 am Post subject: |
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I have fuel and I have fire on all cylinders. The plugs were a little sooty but it should still run. No idea what's wrong I drove it to work no problems.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Check all fuses. Wiggle all relays.
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the_mad_electrician
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't think its electrical because I pulled the spark plugs and check and they are all firing and the carbs are flowing gas... I'm clueless... I even checked the timing set the timing mark and the rotor was pointed the right way...
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Not sure specifically what you mean the carbs are flowing gas. Is the fuel pump pressurizing the delivery system?
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TJC
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Prior to cleaning your fuse box did you have any starting or running problems?
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stevekat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: |
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If you are cranking the engine and pumping the accelerator to get gas in from the Webers, and the car shall not start and the plugs are dry, then my guess is your fuel pump is not on. If they are wet, and you have spark, the car may be flooded.
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the_mad_electrician
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| stevekat wrote: | | Not sure specifically what you mean the carbs are flowing gas. Is the fuel pump pressurizing the delivery system? |
I have a Weber conversion the back carb float valve has stuck closed before when I first got them...
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the_mad_electrician
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It'll kinda run if I keep cranking on it and floor the gas but as soon as I remove my foot from the gas its done. Its been making a ticking sounded I just assumed it was lifters needing adjusting and laziness kept me from doing it... the jets could be clogged up... I know gas is fill the bowls because it took the carbs top plate off with the pump running... I guess I could clean the bastards out
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stevekat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Or that. 
If the plugs are dry after a long cranking and no signs of firing, you most likely are not getting fuel.
On most if not all 924's, the fuel pump relay shall not send power to the fuel pump unless the relay receives a pulse signal from the ignition (usually green wire.) You can jumper certain pins on the panel after taking out the fuel pump relay if necessary. I forget the pin numbers but I am pretty sure that info is here on the board if you search.
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stevekat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:02 am Post subject: |
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Are the plugs dry or wet?
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the_mad_electrician
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| Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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I have my my pump switched no relay involved  and it loud so I know it was running... I will have to do more checking when it is not dark and. I have time
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Just a note...a switched fuel pump is dangerous, or at least more dangerous than using the relay. If the engine stops running the fuel pump turns of normally. If you flip the car or have a bad accident and lines are torn or damagedd, fuel continues to be pumped in your set up, unless you are able to and remember to turn if off. You could end up pumping fuel onto a fire.
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the_mad_electrician
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Yeah this car needs a complete rewire... I'm still not sure if its a wiring, carb or mechanical problem... I'm considering ditching this car and buying something different. I could buy a 951 for the price its going to take to get this thing in a general good order. I love to drive it but looking it over today its going to be pricy...
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After sleeping on it I bet the jets are partially or full blocked, the gas in the bowls was pretty cloudy 
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