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Khal
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Ah, I see now. Had seen that one before but didn't realise it was what you're talking about. I searched craiglist again, before I posted, but I must've missed it.
I was under the (obviously incorrect) impression that it was the usual "Yankee Special"
 
Agree with the others, that one seems a particularly good candidate for a reasonably priced resto.
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ideola
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Worth saving.
DO IT DO IT DO IT !!!!!
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skucera
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| skytrooper wrote: | | If you buy it and need any parts...let me know as I have a 1981 931 that I am stripping. |
That's very nice of you to offer. I just told the seller that it is too daunting and that I'll pass for now, but I may have second thoughts about it and call him back. Also, my wife thought it sounded too risky too. The cost of buying a rear footwell carpet for the thing and repairing the front seats would cost more than I could sell it for even if I fixed it up to be a real concours winner (which I'll never do). I'm still really interested in a 931 or a 944, or even a 924S, if I can confirm that it runs and shifts and doesn't need a lot of expensive trim repair. I'm so conflicted on this car, but my cautious side tells me to listen to my wife and pass on it for now.
Ideola's whispering in my ear with his devil horns on doesn't help, though...  or does he have his halo on?
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Khal
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| skucera wrote: | | The cost of buying a rear footwell carpet for the thing and repairing the front seats would cost more than I could sell it for... |
Yeah, there's zero profit to be had from flipping these cars. If that's your intent, don't bother. You might end up with beer money if you part it, though.
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skucera
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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No, flipping cars isn't the intent, but being the sole support for a family of five, I don't like the idea of wasting lots of money on cars. This runs exactly counter to my love of exotic European engineering, so I've had to develop some self-control over the years. Before we had kids, I could indulge myself with V-12 powered automobiles, and semi-exotics like the MR2, and with oddities like my '68 Olds Toronado, all 385 hp of it. I can look forward to the kids being done with college in only 15 more years, so until then I think of frugal, fun sports cars. My time for indulgence will come again.
And I've never owned a Porsche... or a turbo... or a car in whatever you want to call that really weird reddish brownish pinkish metallic color....
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Khal
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| skucera wrote: | | I don't like the idea of wasting lots of money on cars. This runs exactly counter to my love of exotic European engineering... |
Truer words have not been spoken.
BTW, my parents owned an '87 900 Aero and a '92 9000 Carlsson. I enjoyed driving them. Old 911's have lift-off oversteer, old turbo SAAB's have power-on torque steer... trippy cars 
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| skucera wrote: | | ...a lot of expensive trim repair. |
Just some clarification: IMHO, bodywork (good ol' panel and paint) is the most expensive repair item on these cars (if you want a factory-like result). Mainly because very few people are actually body repair experts and hence you have no choice but to have it done professionally. Which is expensive, plain and simple.
But, if you're patient, you could probably get an entire interior in good condition (minus dashboard) for less than the cost of a turbo rebuild (I mean, I've seen good interior bits going literally for free here).
Mechanically, given the space, time and tools, even an utter dolt like myself could do most, if not all, the wrenching on them. I mean, not actual machining of major components, which, unless it's your profession, you're better off farming out.
Replacing/refurbishing major mechanical components can get expensive, at least in relative terms. I get the feeling a lot of noobs assume that because they got the car for for pocket change, that everything for it should cost $20 or less. It doesn't. You need major machining? A new clutch, pistons, rods, maybe a crank, a cam, lifters, valves, an exhaust manifold, a turbo, fuel pumps... not to mention the C.I.S. bits, suspension components, brake components..? It's all gonna cost ya. Especially when you need them all, at the same time.
Anyway, just a few thoughts. Maybe that thing's a gem and just needs some carpet and a couple of seats? That'd be ideal 
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ideola
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:02 am Post subject: |
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Here y'go:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=34490
New candidate. This one runs. And it's the best of the bunch, being an '82. Looks like a pretty reasonable price and an overall good starting point for a project.
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Khal
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:13 am Post subject: |
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What's with the whole "No title" thing? Does that mean you can't use the car?
| ideola wrote: | | And it's the best of the bunch, being an '82. |
Agreed.
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ideola
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 9:43 am Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: | | What's with the whole "No title" thing? Does that mean you can't use the car? |
Depends on the jurisdiction in which the car will ultimately be titled. Most states have a process where you can re-title a car as long as you have reasonable evidence that you acquired it via legitimate means.
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skucera
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| Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Khal wrote: | | You need major machining? A new clutch, pistons, rods, maybe a crank, a cam, lifters, valves, an exhaust manifold, a turbo, fuel pumps... not to mention the C.I.S. bits, suspension components, brake components..? It's all gonna cost ya. Especially when you need them all, at the same time. |
In studying this forum and all the links, this was precisely the reason I'm so reluctant to buy this very cheap 931. The risk is grave, but there is a chance that the car could be resurrected very cheaply if everything goes just right. It's been quite a while since everything went just right for me with any car. I don't have a machine shop, but I did quite a bit of machining in metal shop in high school, and that doesn't scare me, but a machinist's bill does scare me. The cost of mechanical parts, and a clutch kit in particular, is daunting. Anyway, you're aware of the two horns of my dilemma.
Even though I told the seller that I'm passing, I still found myself looking up the costs of the Pierburg fuel pumps at work today while automated tests ran. 
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El Chato
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| Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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going back to the saabs, I read that the 1978-1980 saab 99 turbo has a 2.0 engine with something like 8.5:1 compression ratio using cis system. I was very tempted to doing a bolt on turbo setup but there aren't any of near me.
Anyone ever tried this mod? or have one near to them to check it out
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skucera
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You mean bolting a turbo on a N/A Saab 99, or bolting a turbo on a N/A 924?
I'm more of a Classic 900 guy, and the turbo engines and transmissions have lots of detail differences from the N/A version for each year. The blocks and heads for each year are generally the same, but buying the parts would be more expensive than just going out and buying a used 900 Turbo, and I'm sure the same is true for buying a used 924 turbo. I assume by extrapolation that the same is true for a 99 Turbo.
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