Show full size 924Board.org
Discussion Forum of 924.org
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
 Technical FAQ924 FAQ (Technical)   Technical924 Technical Section   Jump to 924.org924.org   Jump to PCA 924 Registry924 Registry

'82 924 NA needs a cam and lifters - please help
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    924Board.org Forum Index -> General Discussions
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
deaddeejay  



Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:26 am    Post subject: '82 924 NA needs a cam and lifters - please help Reply with quote

I'be been trying to get her roadworthy for months now, and after taking her in for bearings, rotors, and tie-rods, I picked her up only to find someone there abused her and now the cam and lifters need replacing (they were on the way out already, but not gone, now they are toast...)
As the title says, my 924 has a bad cam, so I'm looking for opinions on a good source for a mild street cam, and replacement lifters. I've been searching, and if I'm going to replace it, why pay the $400+ for a stock piece? Any help is GREATLY appreciated. I just want to get her running and back on the road.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
emoore924  



Joined: 13 Apr 2004
Posts: 2822

PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a cam. pm sent

Last edited by emoore924 on Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:22 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
deaddeejay  



Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still trying to find a source for lifters. Anyone? Should I stick with stock, is there an upgrade option that will replace the stock lifters? The stock exhaust manifold has been replaced by the PO with a tubular header, and larger than stock exhaust pipe, so I can go with larger than stock cam, any suggestions?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fiat22turbo  



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 4040
Location: Portland, OR

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Start here:

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=25795


There are some cam and lifter options, but they aren't cheap. You really should spend the money on upping the flow through the head with porting and larger valves, IMHO.

There was a discussion recently about adapting hydraulic lifters, but I don't think it has gotten to the stage of even being tried, yet.
_________________
Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Khal  



Joined: 26 Sep 2003
Posts: 4872
Location: Sunny and lovely interior BC, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

deaddeejay wrote:
Still trying to find a source for lifters. Anyone?


There was a thread about solid lifter replacements, last talked about a few months back. Don't know the result but it wouldn't hurt to ask...
_________________
'80 924 Turbo
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
deaddeejay  



Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, I will be reading those threads shortly. I'm not replacing because I want to, I'm doing it because the stock cam is toast, and 2 lifters are as well. I'd rather spend the money elsewhere, but I'm doing what I need to to drive the car. Almost have the front end rebuilt, then I was going to move on to the rear, but this came up... Such is life with an older car, I guess, I just didn't realize how hard certain parts would be to get ahold of... still love the car though...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fiat22turbo  



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 4040
Location: Portland, OR

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure to read up ZDDP additives as the lifters will not last long with the newer oils without the additive.
_________________
Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
deaddeejay  



Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advice, I wonder if that is why the cam went in the first place, it's getting plenty of oil...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Joes924Racer  



Joined: 03 Nov 2002
Posts: 11964
Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

emoore924 wrote:
I have a cam. pm sent


Emoore will run you right... just use a synth. oil such as mobil1
or sumthin.
_________________
1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website AIM Address
fiat22turbo  



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 4040
Location: Portland, OR

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder, which lifters failed?

Might want to check that the oil tube elbow isn't leaking and the oil tube isn't clogged before you put it back together, just to be safe.

Obviously, the proper lifter clearances need to be set and maintained, but eventually they will still wear out.

BTW, EBS Racing has followers for $90/ea. and you need to supply your own adjuster screws (save them from the original ones). http://www.ebsracing.com

http://www.integralcams.com/924.htm has camshafts (or did, not sure if they still do)

Piper Cams makes the solid, lightweight lifters: http://www.pipercams.co.uk, not sure if there is a vendor in the states that stocks them or if a group buy is planned anytime soon.

Good luck!
_________________
Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
!tom  



Joined: 28 Aug 2006
Posts: 1941
Location: Victoria, BC Canada

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is Integral went out of business a couple months ago. I see on the bottom of their web site that they're now available through Megacycle cams.

Anyone heard of or dealt with these guys before?
_________________
78 924 NA
5-lug
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Min  



Joined: 04 Nov 2002
Posts: 2368
Location: Vernon, British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khal wrote:
There was a thread about solid lifter replacements, last talked about a few months back. Don't know the result but it wouldn't hurt to ask...


Still working on it. Last qoute I got was 131 dollars each,which is a little to much.

Min
_________________
Custom means it didn't come from a box.
1980 n/a with EDIS and Megasquirt II Injection. 7 different colors and counting.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
deaddeejay  



Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh my that's expensive. That wouldn't be bad if I was building the engine for more power, but as a replacement part, it's too rich for me...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fiat22turbo  



Joined: 18 Jan 2006
Posts: 4040
Location: Portland, OR

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stock is $90/ea. = $720.00 for a set of 8

Piper is $131/ea. = $1048.00 for a set of 8.

And of course you should replace them all if you're using a new cam.
_________________
Stefan
1979 924 Carrera GTS (clone-ish)
1988 944 Turbo S (Silver Rose)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
deaddeejay  



Joined: 06 Nov 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ouch, so does anyone have a good used head they want to sell?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    924Board.org Forum Index -> General Discussions All times are GMT + 10 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group