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9XX Girl!  



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give them the Bishops Finger. (Next best thing to a fine Porter in my books. )



Here's another two Bishops Fingers




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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your such a copycat!! That's what I suggested (bishops finger) albeit without the pictures....
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulsmaroon924 wrote:
Your such a copycat!! That's what I suggested (bishops finger) albeit without the pictures....


Great Minds....

Its too cold for Pale Ales. Even full-bodied complexed fruity flavoured cask-conditioned Ales like Bishops Finger are better appreciated in spring.

I would suggest a Porter for these cold times. Something like Whitechapple or Station Porter. It's not as heavy as a stout but has a good flavoured body of pumpkin, honey, vanilla, and bourbon. Some Porters even use coffee. Thick and creamy and strong. ideal for winter.

History: Porter is a dark-coloured style of beer. The history and development of stout and porter are intertwined. The name was first used in the 18th century from its popularity with the street and river porters of London. It is generally brewed with dark malts. The name "stout" for a dark beer came about because a strong porter may be called "Extra Porter" or "Double Porter" or "Stout Porter". The term "Stout Porter" would later be shortened to just "Stout". For example, Guinness Extra Stout was originally called "Extra Superior Porter" and was only given the name Extra Stout in 1840.

But its all down to taste.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always up for a little history lesson, especially when it concerns beer or Porsches! I'm more of a stout drinker than porter. Porters seem to have a little more of an earthy peaty flavor. A buddy of mine who loves porters and drinks a lot of them, calls it "mud beer".

Cheers, Brian
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

as i say its all down to taste i guess but, I'm not sure how your US beer is prepped. Stuff like Guinness has been pasteurized. It tastes cooked due the heat treating process. Un-pasteurized is so different but is not favoured among big brewers as it has a shorter shelf life. You need to buy from a micro-brewery. Also, the mass produced stuff has gone through a carbonating proses and tends to be artificially gassy.

Ideally, you want bottle conditioned (for off-license consumption) or cask conditioned (for draft). These beers still contain sediment (mud) and need to stand (for a day in the case of bottled beer and for 3 days in the barrel) or they taste rushed (muddy) . They then need to be decanted slowly so to leave the sediment in the bottle or barrel. Easier said than done in a dark ruby or porter cos you cant see it.

The big beer producers can't appeal to a mass market with all that faffing around so they use a process call finning. Finnings (beef fat or fish oil) is added after fermentation. The sediment then sticks to this fat and after a couple of days it is filtered. The fat sticks in the filter and thus removes the sediment, reducing the muddy flavour. Problem is you can then taste the fat.

Good beer is settled and not rushed, fresh and not pasteurized, decanted and not aggregated or fined.

But what do I know, I don't drink! (T-Total) I just taste and spit
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a home brewer, I only bottle condition my beers. I don't force carbonate even beer that I keg. I can wait for the full yeast/carbonation cycle to run its' course. Most consumers don't like the sediment, so mass market beer is filtered in some fashion.

Pasteurization is terrible for beer flavor, I'm not sure why Guiness insists on the process.

I don't use any finings after the boil. I'll introduce some Irish moss near the end of the wort boil. That infusion helps to pick up the excess protein from the boil which clarifies the wort and gets rid of chill haze in fully fermented beer. I don't mind the sediment in the bottom of the bottle, as a matter of fact, I usually drink it at the end. It's mainly just the spent brewer's yeast that falls out after all the sugars have been converted to alcohol.

Cheers, Brian
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to say I've only recently started drinking Chivas, blue label. It's a proper Trappist monk beer produced in Belgium. It's got a crazy amount of sediment and a stunning flavour and texture. More stunning is it's 11% alcohol content!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unibrou in Quebec makes some excellent Trappist style ales and ale-on-lees, if you can find 'em. La Fin du Monde is one of my favs...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9XX Girl! wrote:
I just taste and spit


it sounds to me like someones fishing for a dirty joke or two....
since a quote like that is no way to get a date!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best IPA ever crafted by human hands:

Terminal Gravity IPA, Enterprise, OR
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favorite is Stone Smoked Porter

The Stone Brewery has become quite well known in the last few years!
I remember when I couldn't find anyone who had heard of it. I live about 5 miles from their brewery and I've been to their tour/tasting 5 or 6 times.

I'm also a fan of Rogue's Dead Guy Ale.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Total Domination IPA, By Ninkasi in Eugene Or.

I have had Many favorite brews over the years. But I think this brewmaster has the twin to my tongue.

From Rougue I perfer the Imperial IPA, the Yellow snow is good too.
Rougue also brews Eugene City Brewery, they have a 100 meter IPA and 200 meter IPA... Very tastey.

And Rasta... Yes I really enjoy a Terminal. You should find yourself a pint or three of Ninkasi Tricerihops(sp?)... Lots of fresh hops, lots of flavor.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

9XX Girl! wrote:
Its too cold for Pale Ales.

IMHO it's never the wrong season for a hopped up IPA!
Benino wrote:
My favorite is Stone Smoked Porter

Stone Brewery has indeed garnered some good press and attention. Solid beers! I really enjoy Ruination. Arrogant Bastard is quite tasty too and for some reason it's also a phrase I hear a lot. I'm sure it has nothing to do with my character. I have not tried their smoked beer but if it is similar to a few German Rachbiers (smoked) that I've had, I'd have to pass. You have my curiosity piqued though, so I'll have to give it a try.
paulsmaroon924 wrote:
Chivas, blue label. It's a proper Trappist monk beer produced in Belgium. It's got a crazy amount of sediment and a stunning flavour and texture.

Chimay Grande Reserve (Blue) is excellent. I love popping the cork on one of those. Definitely a high alcohol content beer.
Rasta Monsta wrote:
Best IPA ever crafted by human hands:

Terminal Gravity IPA, Enterprise, OR

If I happen to run across a bottle or two... or three... or... I'll definitely give it a try!

Hey, nice, fun to read write-up on the Chump car effort, you chump!

Cheers, Brian (Dork, Dweeb, & Tool)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to love a IPA.

I really love Dry Dock's double IPA (Seven Seas Double IPA). I wish I lived in Aurora still, closer to the brewery. It's a nice treat to get my growlers filled now and then.

http://www.drydockbrewing.com
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