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Jakkq · Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 810 Location: Omaha, Nebraska

I got some new ones, but I went a bit too fast and mixed up the correct path of where they connect on the distributor cap. I have all the wires connected correctly to the spark plugs, but is there also a certain pattern they connect to the distributor cap, or can you just hook them in anywhere?
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Ozzie · Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject:

Line up your cam pulley with the TDC mark. (turn motor by hand)

take off the dissy cap and see which way the rotor is pointing. this is plug no 1.
refit cap, fit plug wire 1.
then clockwise fit 3,4,2.

done.
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Imafordguy · Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 189 Location: Eugene Or.

What Ozzie said will get you there.
Next time pull one wire replace one wire repeat untill done. Then done.
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Jakkq · Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 810 Location: Omaha, Nebraska

What are the ignition wire numbers? What would ignition wire #1 be?
The rotor isn't exactly indicating to the exact point that the first plug would be set. I turn the rotor and it turns to the left a little ways then does not move any further.

Pictures would be super helpful.

Also, I have 5 ignition plug connections on the dizzy cap, but I don't see where a 5th connects. My 5th and last ignition wire I have is very short.
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Ozzie · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:27 pm Post subject:

So dont you have a coil?
Pics would not help as the dissy on cars could be in a different orientation to yours.
Dont you have a Haynes manual?
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Jakkq · Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 810 Location: Omaha, Nebraska

Coil?
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Imafordguy · Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 189 Location: Eugene Or.

I can't help you with pictures...
I will try to walk you thru it...
First find "top dead center" or TDC. This is easy to do if you remove spark plugs 2,3,and 4 and loosen spark plug 1 a couple turns but leave it in. Spark plug #1 is the closest to the front of the motor. Then you will use a large socket(I believe its a 24mm) on the lowest pulley on the motor. You will rotate the motor clockwise(righty tighty) until a notch on that pulley lines up with a pointy index mark off the block(or it might be a water pump). This will be adequate index for your intents. Now Your rotor should be close to directly pointed at number 1 plug wire location.
Once you establish the correct placement of #1 it is then a clockwise install of #3 Then #4 then #2. Your short wire(The mysterious #5) runs to the center of the dizzy cap to the coil, Coil is mounted to the firewall about 6 inches to the right of the dizzy.
I hope this helps...
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81 Porsche 924
84 Porsche 944(parting it)
66 Ford f100
66 AC cobra kit car(major project)
64 ford f100 (429 SCJ)
62 Studebaker golden hawk gt
61 baja bug (with bad opel 1.8, looking at ford 2.3 turbo to flovo)

Jakkq · Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 810 Location: Omaha, Nebraska

Okay, so will anything get harmed if I try to fire up the car if the ignition wires are not correctly placed? I know the Spark Plugs are fine.
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Imafordguy · Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 189 Location: Eugene Or.

Well I don't want to start a debate but YES. You can do damage to an engine and its components by endlessly cranking when you do not have spark or spark at way inproper time.

I know it is a PITA to remove plugs and you are worried about disconnecting plug wires(thou you really should not be) but that is the easyest way to find TDC which is a must to find #1. You can try to rotate the motor at the bottom pulley(which is connected to the crank shaft) with the plugs in but you will be fighting the comp of the motor, It will be hard to turn and will probly jump past your timing marks. but within an inch either way should be close enough.

Find #1 placement and Your COIL and you should be set.
If you are trying to do this right now shoot me a pm with you phone# I will walk you thru it.
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81 Porsche 924
84 Porsche 944(parting it)
66 Ford f100
66 AC cobra kit car(major project)
64 ford f100 (429 SCJ)
62 Studebaker golden hawk gt
61 baja bug (with bad opel 1.8, looking at ford 2.3 turbo to flovo)

Ozzie · Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject:

The NA is a non inteference engine and nothing will bash together if you do it wrong.
However, dont endlessly crank the motor trying to start.

Imafordguy.
I align the cam pulley, not the crank with TDC when doing the dissy wires as the valves can be 180 degrees off.
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Jakkq · Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 810 Location: Omaha, Nebraska

Hmm I'll try some stuff out. Argh, I haven't done anything this intense yet before, and I'm still kind of a noob.

I just don't want to mess anything up since I'm the only one working on it.

I just tried starting her up but no spark.
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Imafordguy · Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 189 Location: Eugene Or.

Ozzie is corrrect... You can Have lower pulley marks lined up and be on the wrong stroke. With the #1 plug in you will hear a slight hiss nearing the end of the comp stroke. Also you can check the back side of the cam pulley and the point off the valve cover.
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81 Porsche 924
84 Porsche 944(parting it)
66 Ford f100
66 AC cobra kit car(major project)
64 ford f100 (429 SCJ)
62 Studebaker golden hawk gt
61 baja bug (with bad opel 1.8, looking at ford 2.3 turbo to flovo)

Imafordguy · Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 189 Location: Eugene Or.

Just went out and checked... It Is a 24mm on the crank pulley on my 81.
You will never get spark if the center hole of the dist cap is not connected to your coil.
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81 Porsche 924
84 Porsche 944(parting it)
66 Ford f100
66 AC cobra kit car(major project)
64 ford f100 (429 SCJ)
62 Studebaker golden hawk gt
61 baja bug (with bad opel 1.8, looking at ford 2.3 turbo to flovo)

datatrain · Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:44 am Post subject:

Is this thread for real ?

Some one is having you guys on.
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Ozzie · Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:17 am Post subject:

Might be related to 'he who must not be named"
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