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DOCO · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:09 am Post subject:

AH thank you i thought it may have something to do with formula just wasnt sure what the circus part was.

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Brockoli · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:47 am Post subject:

I think it is crazy that the drivers can change the front wing angle on the fly(not the whole wing but pieces on the side), I only wish my front valence wasnt bent.lol
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Khal · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject:

Fantastic. Just fantasic.

And it's not even race day...
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Khal · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:01 am Post subject:

Oh, the carnage! The controversy!

Hamilton gets third (how does he keep doing that?!

) and is poised to take the win when -you notice I didn't say "if" -they rule against the trick diffuser...

What will happen next week?!
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Brockoli · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:25 am Post subject:

that trick diffuser was a big difference.

it reminds me of something I read in the 24hrs of lemons cheaters guide, "there are 2 kinds of racers, losers and cheaters."

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Khal · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:48 am Post subject:

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steeny · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:48 am Post subject:

I say let em race with it. Just because the other teams failed to interpret the rules properly, that's their fault.

anyway, was a good race on the weekend. nice to see the Brawn cars so reliable in the first race
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Khal · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:21 am Post subject:

steeny · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:30 am Post subject:

Yeah, i see where your coming from khal. I personally would love to go back to the twin turbo, balls to the wall fastest shit we can build being what F1 is all about.

I'm not convinced that all these rules make it any better to watch.

as for engineers and exploiting grey areas, thats what they are there for. like laywers and loopholes, or peanut butter and jam.
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Paul · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:41 am Post subject:

I wish they would bring back Can Am.....

from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can-Am

Can-Am started out as a race series for Group 7 sports racers with two races in Canada (Can) and four races in the United States of America (Am). The series was initially sponsored by Johnson Wax. The Series used the FIA Group 7 category with unrestricted engine capacity.

The Group 7 category was essentially a formule libre for sports cars; the regulations were minimal and permitted unlimited engine sizes (and allowed turbocharging and supercharging), virtually unrestricted aerodynamics, and were as close as any major international racing series ever got to anything goes. As long as the car had two seats and bodywork enclosing the wheels, and met basic safety standards, it was legal. Group 7 had arisen as a category for non-homologated sports car 'specials' in Europe and for a while in the 1960s Group 7 racing was popular in the United Kingdom as well as a class in hillclimb racing in Europe. Group 7 cars were designed more for short-distance sprints than for endurance racing. Some Group 7 cars were also built in Japan by Nissan and Toyota, but these did not compete outside their homeland (though some of the Can-Am competitors went over to race against them occasionally).
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Brockoli · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject:

I think they should be allowed to race with the diffuser. If they had the smartest engineers (smartest being the brightest to cheat) then it should not be any different than an engineer that made an engine that out preforms everyone else. As long as there isnt a clear rule against it, the diffuser should stay.

This reminds me of a historic F1 race where I saw that 6 wheeled car. I dont know the history as I believe it was before my time. But I bet it happened the same way. A bigg loop hole in the rules that someone found. Kind of like those dumb Disney movies where a dog plays basketball because its a loophole

heres a wiki link to the 6 wheel car
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrrell_P34

or how about the fan car that was in F1. Cooling fan my ass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabham_BT46

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Khal · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:10 pm Post subject:

I'd never seen the "fan car" before! I knew there was a few whacky concepts tried over the years. That's a ripper! I'd seen (and read about) the Tyrrell six-wheeler.

Interesting that the "fan car" was made by/for the Brabham team. Sir Jack Brabham is the only person to win the F1 championship in his own car. And an Aussie, to boot!

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emoore924 · Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 2822

There were a couple more "fan cars"...

One ran away from the field at indy in the late 60's (or thereabouts) until an unrealted failure just before the end of the race. Outlawed shortly thereafter. STP sponsorship, IIRC. Granatelli, something like that.

And then there were the Chaparrals "sucker cars" with the snowmobile engines. mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm