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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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erm - so, the front bumper is made of metal on US cars?!
Jesus - how much does that weigh?! (Rhetorical question...)
@Smoothie - mixing metric and UNC hardware... tut, tut!  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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D Hook

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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US bumpers are aluminum....oops....aluminium for you guys. .
Light but maybe not quite as light as the euro. _________________ '80 924 n/a SOLD |
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924turbo_sout_africa
Joined: 29 Oct 2007 Posts: 215 Location: Sout africa
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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my bumper is fibre glass ?..... _________________ Porsche ...where dreams are a reality
'79 924 turbo canada spec
'98 Formula Vee (M3 eater)
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but it's "fiber glass" that RoW cars got.
-And yes, US (and Canada?) got some big chunks of aluminum, most of it approx. [3/16"] thick -
-Not heavy, but could easily be 2x, 3x, or moreX heavier than the fiber glass versions. ..Then add the bumper shocks.. _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:21 am Post subject: |
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US or NA
bumper bare 21 lbs
" rubbers about 3 lbs ea
Shocks about 2 1/2 ea
Euro is FG
bare 11 lbs
rubbers about 1lb
no shocks just twisted metal 2= 1lb.
You figure out the difference _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock |
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Sebring '79

Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 22 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:18 am Post subject: |
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So converting from US to ROW bumpers saves 12.5 pounds at each end, or maybe 25 pounds if you switch out both of them.
Other than for looks or hard-core racing, that hardly seems worth the effort. |
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Rasta Monsta

Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 11733 Location: PacNW
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:46 am Post subject: |
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It looks many times better, IMO, but I would be awfully nervous about an inopportune "love tap." _________________ Toofah King Bad
- WeiBe (1987 924S 2.5t) - 931 S3
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Sebring '79

Joined: 23 Jan 2009 Posts: 22 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:02 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | It looks many times better, IMO, but I would be awfully nervous about an inopportune "love tap." |
Agreed, I think the best of both world would be a modified US bumper that looks like the Euro bumper; I just have no clue how big of a nightmare it would be to do that.
Those integrated fog/driving lights are just too damn neat to pass up.
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: |
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All told I saved a lot of weight with my conversion to euro bumpers. I think the savings would be in the 40+ pounds. Not a lot but what do you have to do to lose 40 elsewhere on the car. Taking out the rear seats and all the sound deadening material in the cabin and trunk would not total 40 lbs.
Plexiglass hatch weighs about 10 lbs ver 75 lbs.
door motors and mirrors ea side about 3-4 lbs.
Front seats about 35 ea with race seats savings about 45-50 lbs
radio and speakers maybe 3 lbs.
so you would think the bumpers make sense if your purpose is to lighten the car. All of the changes could make a larger difference.
I went as far as taking off all the emblems, water container for the windshield, all interior material other than the seats, removed the air conditioning and am contemplating getting a plexi hatch. _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock |
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ideola

Joined: 01 Oct 2004 Posts: 15550 Location: Spring Lake MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Vince Ponz wrote: | | contemplating getting a plexi hatch. |
I have one I might be willing to trade for a good euro bumper setup... _________________ erstwhile owner of just about every 924 variant ever made |
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Brockoli

Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 621 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:37 am Post subject: |
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im a little late on this subject but, I really like the big rectangular fog lights. I think they are very period correct. i bought amber bosch ones and mounted them on my car.I love the amber lights, its so american le mans GT style. I changed the location tho...
I think the round ones are cool, but look newer than the car. I think I might add yellow headlight tint, still on the fence abou that one. _________________ '80 924 M471,Wideband O2, Full coilover susp,23/19 sways,Bilstiens,KLA Strut Brace,Roll Bar,Test Pipe,BBS RS, Willwood BBK
25% of a '87 944 Chumpcar http://straightpipe.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=2454
'79 924 Sebring Edition(Sitting) |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:59 am Post subject: |
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I didn't like them at first, but they grew on me... and I love them....
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Catamax944

Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 140 Location: London UK
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:10 am Post subject: |
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I have a FOHA front spoiler for sale. 50 plus _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock |
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JayZzzz4

Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 544 Location: Milwaukee, WI USA
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Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I like the rear turbo valance, and it's £180 which is $251. Mmmm, I was thinking of making one this spring/summer out of thin wood and then fiberglass over it.... _________________ White 1987 Porsche 924S manual |
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