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endwrench

Joined: 07 Dec 2002 Posts: 1631 Location: Victor, Montana
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:17 am Post subject: Re: SkunkWerks Intakes |
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Absolutely gorges!! Just plain WOW! Some serious engineering.
BUT, this part just pisses me off....
| bass gt wrote: | | ..... Finally decided to go with a nice simple 4 injector system.... |
I had just one tiny little part of this beutiful creation (when I sold you some injector cups) and now you have robbed me of my glory by placing your injectors in the intake intead of the head!!!!!
Todd _________________ '79 924NA. Rebuilt 9.5:1, MSDS header, Mega Squirt Injection, MJLJ-EDIS Ignition, 1.6L Whipple Charger and Intercooler, 10lbs Boost, 944 Trans, Custom HD Clutch.
"simsport" said....superchargers are better than turbos its official!.... |
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Fast924S
Joined: 18 Feb 2005 Posts: 39 Location: New Haven, CT
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:32 am Post subject: |
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OMG, I think Im in love, That looks KILLER, Very Very good work, I wanna hear it run Now, Come to my garage and help me make my 924S badass, I'LL pay you in beer, Sound good? _________________ Rebuild COMPLETED, Many mods, better power, Just ask for info |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Hey I was thinking while driving at work today.. next year Ill
try for the motor - cycle 1000 cc carb adaption trick. Entailing designing
some intakes for each carb nl figure out the linkage and find the right jet size.. want to get a GT front end for it too 924 style. I got
the color choice for the front end also .. . orange. I ll just cut the side skirts off at the end of the body by the door and run a angle back on it.
 _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Peter_in_AU

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 2743 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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So, are we on track to get them in the stores by Christmas?
Very inspiring. _________________ 1979 924 (Gone to a better place)
1974 Lotus 7 S4 "Big Valve" Twin-cam (waiting)
1982 924 (As featured on Wikipedia)
Learn to love your multimeter and may the search be with you |
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flosho

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3160 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:20 am Post subject: |
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I'll take one, do you take kidneys? _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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bass gt

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 971 Location: Johannesburg for now!!
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| flosho wrote: | | I'll take one, do you take kidneys? |
No, but i love liver with fava beans and a nice Chianti
If it is of interest, i might be able to get the CAD files for the machined parts. So if anyone wanted to copy my set up, they could do so without making the mistakes i did
Steve _________________ Front Wheel Drive is the Devil's work. |
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flosho

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3160 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: |
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That would be a good start, if you could save and post your CAD diagrams.
I know there is that place on the internet that if you send them CAD files will machine items.
I'm interested in the plenum set up, but would rather just have "simple" runners, if you know what i mean. Looks like the runners are 3 or 4 pieces. _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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bass gt

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 971 Location: Johannesburg for now!!
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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It would be very easy to machine a flange, and have a single 45deg pipe connected into it. You could then either mount the injectors into the head with one of Todds kits, or weld injector pockets into the pipe. Then mount the pipe to a plenum chamber, fit a throttle, and off you go. The reason mine is segmented, is that it is made from standard Jenvey stock parts. Using these, and making the adapter flange the correct height, allowed me to lift the runners up, ala the GTR, get the correct clearance to clear the alternator, get the correct runner length ect. There is more to this as well. Under the plenum chamber, i am going to mount an oil to water heat exchanger, as i need to heat my oil up quicker.
However, the main reason i did this is to clean up the air flow into the head. As the injectors are upstream, it is very easy for the fuel to drop out of suspension, as it negotiates the original 120deg bend.This can happen at low air speed due to lack of velocity, and at high airspeed due to centrifical force. If you look at the GTR's, they did this too, with the mechanical injector place at the bend of the runner and facing backwards into the airflow, to maximise atomisation. To improve performance, we need to improve thr flow of the head. The 120deg bend is a major downside. If you look at modern motorcycles, the inlet runners go down into the head at little more than 15degs from vertical. This optimises cylinder filling, and performance.
Steve _________________ Front Wheel Drive is the Devil's work. |
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Raceboy

Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 2327 Location: Estonia, Europe
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| bass gt wrote: | | However, the main reason i did this is to clean up the air flow into the head. As the injectors are upstream, it is very easy for the fuel to drop out of suspension, as it negotiates the original 120deg bend.This can happen at low air speed due to lack of velocity, and at high airspeed due to centrifical force. If you look at the GTR's, they did this too, with the mechanical injector place at the bend of the runner and facing backwards into the airflow, to maximise atomisation. |
You can get better atomization by using more modern injectors, like new Siemens Deka's or Bosch EV6 and up type (so called pencyl-style). Older style (like RC's, Rochesters etc) have crappy atomization and response. _________________ '83 924 2.6 16v Turbo, 470hp
'67 911 2.4S hotrod
'90 944 S2 Cabriolet
'78 924 Carrera GT replica
'84 928 S, sold
'91 944 S2, sold
'82 924S/931 "Gulf", sold
'84 924, turbocharged, sold.
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bass gt

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 971 Location: Johannesburg for now!!
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Raceboy,
I'm fitting Siemens 660's pencil injectors. Should be much better.
Steve _________________ Front Wheel Drive is the Devil's work. |
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genikz88

Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 64
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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That setup is a work of art. Cheers to all that worked on that beauty. _________________ Chris
'88 924S |
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flosho

Joined: 01 Jul 2004 Posts: 3160 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, any word on the CAD files for the machined intake parts? Plus whatever happened to the previous intake plenum? _________________ [This Space For Rent] |
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bass gt

Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Posts: 971 Location: Johannesburg for now!!
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Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Flosho,
I think the guy who did my original machining has either moved or gone bust as there is no one there now!! however, i do have a couple of spare flanges sitting about, so i could post some pics with measurments if that helps. However, all i did was measure the bottom end of the stock inlet system, and derived the dimensions from that.
Re the old manifold plenum, it's sitting in my unit somewhere!!
Steve _________________ Front Wheel Drive is the Devil's work. |
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Joes924Racer

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 11964 Location: Oregon, Denver Colorado native!
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: |
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That thing is so awesome.. wow _________________ 1979 porsche 924 Na
1980 porsche Turbo 931GT Replica
Have u ever driven a turbo. |
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Brockoli

Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 621 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: |
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i could stare at those pics forever _________________ '80 924 M471,Wideband O2, Full coilover susp,23/19 sways,Bilstiens,KLA Strut Brace,Roll Bar,Test Pipe,BBS RS, Willwood BBK
25% of a '87 944 Chumpcar http://straightpipe.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=2454
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