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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:15 am    Post subject: Any Alternative Plans for when the Internet Goes Down? Reply with quote

With the Olympics starting tomorrow, some are saying we may have an interuption with all of the bandwidth being used.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=9593&tag=nl.e589

How about a network using fax machines?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heavily, this will depend on the backbone and routing of the ISP not just whether or not there is traffic.

Depending on the amount of people watching and what not more than likely i'd assume that the sites hosting the media would be affected more than anything. I'm sure there would be peak hours where many people would be watching the streaming video.

However, one thing to also consider is that a vast majority of some of this streaming media is only available through some ISPs, therefore, the agreements lie solely with those ISPs and people using that service are only capable of viewing the large majority of the media and higher quality content. So the most affected networks would be those with the agreements to access those sites.

Either way even if you aren't on that network, most of the backbones nowadays are so vast that I can't imagine it "melting" the internet. I'm not so sure if the media quite understands how internet routing works, lol. I'm reading a lot of "a whole bunch of streams!" on there, but no break down in numbers of the server capabilities, their connection capabilities, etc...

The internet isn't really a big "whole" but rather just a bunch of networks connected altogether as well as functioned and joined by major backbones. To "Melt" the internet you'd have to have every single network putting out enough traffic to quite literally consume the bandwidth capabilities of those connections and "stuff" them up with requests. Just because there are 210 million internet users in america does not mean that all of them will be going to see the olympics online. Nor does it mean all of china's 220 million will be doing so either. However, china and america aren't the only countries in the world going over the internet, and where it is spread so globally, so wide, i cannot fathom every single possible route on the internet as well as their major backbones being rendered "useless".

Some will undoubtedly probably see some slow down, but my thought would be that the places hosting the streams and servers would more than likely get stuffed first

Alternatively: Fax machines work

FROM: Bob
TO: Joe
Subject: THE INTERWEB IS DOWN! OMG! WTF BBQ!

Hey come over and lets play pool! The chinese are fighting the americans for video content on the olympic games! The internet is down! I repeat, the internet is down!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect that, like Grant Hackett at the halfway mark of the 1500m Freestyle, 'The Internet' will be just be settling into a comfortable stride...

As long as the Aussies annihilate the Canucks in every comp. we're in, I'll be happy, Internet or no
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the biggest worry is whether ATT's undersea phone lines can handle the bandwidth.

Do the Australians have an Olympic team?

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dpw928 wrote:
Do the Australians have an Olympic team?


Ooh! Them's fightin' words!

You're lucky you're a Yank. Along with China and the Ruskies, you're one of the only nations that can afford to smug when faced with the might of the Aussie Olympic Team!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought we were the only team that could afford those high cost steroids.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from The Onion's archives:

REDMOND, WA—In what CEO Bill Gates called "an unfortunate but necessary step to protect our intellectual property from theft and exploitation by competitors," the Microsoft Corporation patented the numbers one and zero Monday.

With the patent, Microsoft's rivals are prohibited from manufacturing or selling products containing zeroes and ones—the mathematical building blocks of all computer languages and programs—unless a royalty fee of 10 cents per digit used is paid to the software giant.

"Microsoft has been using the binary system of ones and zeroes ever since its inception in 1975," Gates told reporters. "For years, in the interest of the overall health of the computer industry, we permitted the free and unfettered use of our proprietary numeric systems. However, changing marketplace conditions and the increasingly predatory practices of certain competitors now leave us with no choice but to seek compensation for the use of our numerals."

A number of major Silicon Valley players, including Apple Computer, Netscape and Sun Microsystems, said they will challenge the Microsoft patent as monopolistic and anti-competitive, claiming that the 10-cent-per-digit licensing fee would bankrupt them instantly.

"While, technically, Java is a complex system of algorithms used to create a platform-independent programming environment, it is, at its core, just a string of trillions of ones and zeroes," said Sun Microsystems CEO Scott McNealy, whose company created the Java programming environment used in many Internet applications. "The licensing fees we'd have to pay Microsoft every day would be approximately 327,000 times the total net worth of this company."

"If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice but to convert to analog," said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, "and I have serious doubts whether this company would be able to remain competitive selling pedal-operated computers running software off vinyl LPs."

As a result of the Microsoft patent, many other companies have begun radically revising their product lines: Database manufacturer Oracle has embarked on a crash program to develop "an abacus for the next millennium." Novell, whose communications and networking systems are also subject to Microsoft licensing fees, is working with top animal trainers on a chimpanzee-based message-transmission system. Hewlett-Packard is developing a revolutionary new steam-powered printer.

Despite the swarm of protest, Gates is standing his ground, maintaining that ones and zeroes are the undisputed property of Microsoft.

"We will vigorously enforce our patents of these numbers, as they are legally ours," Gates said. "Among Microsoft's vast historical archives are Sanskrit cuneiform tablets from 1800 B.C. clearly showing ones and a symbol known as 'sunya,' or nothing. We also own: papyrus scrolls written by Pythagoras himself in which he explains the idea of singular notation, or 'one'; early tracts by Mohammed ibn Musa al Kwarizimi explaining the concept of al-sifr, or 'the cipher'; original mathematical manuscripts by Heisenberg, Einstein and Planck; and a signed first-edition copy of Jean-Paul Sartre's Being And Nothingness. Should the need arise, Microsoft will have no difficulty proving to the Justice Department or anyone else that we own the rights to these numbers."

Added Gates: "My salary also has lots of zeroes. I'm the richest man in the world."

According to experts, the full ramifications of Microsoft's patenting of one and zero have yet to be realized.

"Because all integers and natural numbers derive from one and zero, Microsoft may, by extension, lay claim to ownership of all mathematics and logic systems, including Euclidean geometry, pulleys and levers, gravity, and the basic Newtonian principles of motion, as well as the concepts of existence and nonexistence," Yale University theoretical mathematics professor J. Edmund Lattimore said. "In other words, pretty much everything."

Lattimore said that the only mathematical constructs of which Microsoft may not be able to claim ownership are infinity and transcendental numbers like pi. Microsoft lawyers are expected to file liens on infinity and pi this week.

Microsoft has not yet announced whether it will charge a user fee to individuals who wish to engage in such mathematically rooted motions as walking, stretching and smiling.

In an address beamed live to billions of people around the globe Monday, Gates expressed confidence that his company's latest move will, ultimately, benefit all humankind.

"Think of this as a partnership," Gates said. "Like the ones and zeroes of the binary code itself, we must all work together to make the promise of the computer revolution a reality. As the world's richest, most powerful software company, Microsoft is number one. And you, the millions of consumers who use our products, are the zeroes."
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hahahaha i love the onion
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok well lets just say if the under water lines give in ...we can get the south african swimmers to get it sorted that about the best thing of the SA team is the swimmers LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not worried. I have a wireless modem.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D Hook wrote:
I'm not worried. I have a wireless modem.


haha well your wireless goes from your modem to the first pole on the street where there is an amplifier or an emitter so you're just as dead as everybody nomatter what modem you have
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 08, 2008 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loved the tale about Microshaft, but Bill Gates was about 100 years late in using the binary code. IIRC it was first used by Herman Hollerith in the 1880's when he developed a machine to tabulate the US census. His machine was used in the 1890 census and company later became IBM.

Does this mean that IBM will countersue Microshaft?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

morghen wrote:
D Hook wrote:
I'm not worried. I have a wireless modem.


haha well your wireless goes from your modem to the first pole on the street where there is an amplifier or an emitter so you're just as dead as everybody nomatter what modem you have


Sorry, I thought I had the joke light on but I guess I forgot.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I`m on dial up at the moment and haven`t noticed its any slower.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:59 am    Post subject: Re: Any Alternative Plans for when the Internet Goes Down? Reply with quote

dpw928 wrote:
Any Alternative Plans for when the Internet Goes Down?

Hmmm....maybe I'll actually go outside in the garage and get some REAL wrenching done. What a concept!
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