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wombat

hi all the 77 auto is coming along nice almost back on the road.

I have a few more questions though.

LIGHTS:- I have the parking warning lights on (front and rear LHS lights to warn that the car is parked), How did i turn them on and how the F do I turn them off??? I now have a flat battery partly because of other things too.

The other lights question I have is about the back of the speedo, there is a black 4 way wire joiner that i dont think is ment to be there and when i moved something back there I got a short and now when my lights are on the dash lights and the lights from the aux guages dont work but instead I have my turn signal light come on (short somewhere between dash wire and turnsignal wire) could this be because the 4 way screw thing is not ment to be there and some one like the PO (who has done other crapy wireing in this car and loves these joiners that you just tighten the screw instead of using solder like a real electrical repair!!!) has rewired things crappy.

HOW DO I GET THE ENTIRE CLUSTER OUT TO CHECK? IS THERE A WAY TO DO IT WITHOUT TAKING THE WHEEL OFF?

I HATE OPP's ELECTRICAL WORK (ALWAYS USE SOLDER, THE RIGHT COLORS, AND DO A NEAT JOB THAT CANT SHORT PLEASE, JUST INCASE I EVER END UP WITH YOUR CAR)

REAR OF CAR:- I have this funny emblem under the rear hatch lock it looks like a castle and a deer or something like that, is this original?
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Ozzie · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:48 pm Post subject:

My lights were on the other day for no reason I could tell.
The daughter had the left indicator switch still on.
Must have been some feedback somewhere.
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Rich H · Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:53 pm Post subject:

My car is wired with parking lights.

If you switch off the ignition then select the indicator one way or the other (Or vice versa), the parking lights on that side come on.

I think its a requirement for Germany?
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guidon113 · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Iowa

Does the emblem look like this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wappen_Wolfsburg.png

If so, I can not find any indication of a Wolfsburg Edition Porsche.

Tiny · Joined: 10 Apr 2006 Posts: 502 Location: London, UK

Ohhh...I always thought that I had a short with the wiring...when the indicator was left on...but now I see that the fault is called german parking lights.

thanks man...i dont even want to think about what i would have done if i hadn't just learned that.
tiny
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wombat · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:28 am Post subject:

guidon113 · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 8 Location: Iowa

There is History with Porsche and Wolfsburg however, I dont believe Porsche ever released a Wolfsburg Edition 924. It is likely that the previous owner was familiar with the relationship between Father Porsche and VW Wolfsburg, and put this badge on for fun. Any other thoughts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Porsche

Rich H · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:32 am Post subject:

TDC mark is on the fly wheel look through the little window to the RHS while looking at the bell housing.

You are looking for

RC · Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia

Think that black/yellow wire is for an EGR light (or similar) that we don`t have here. Shouldn`t affect the pop ups. They can be a PITA. Recheck whatever you did, then check the relay on the motor then clean and/or wiggle the terminals and the wire connector. Possibly the switch contacts or faulty diode on the motor but unlikely if it was OK previously.

Oil pump is at the front and drives direct from the crank, no connection to the dizzy. Usually line flywheel to TDC or +10 (timing mark, BTDC) with rotor at #1. Mark line at dizzy base and housing and note rotor position before pulling dizzy out. Easy then to replace quite close before setting with timing light. Stock ROW is 10 BTDC initial with vac line disconnected. Should pick up a little more power by further advancing to 15 initial with no problems.

Roger

wombat · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:17 am Post subject:

guidon: my only problem with this theory is that the badge would have had to been put on very early in the cars life as it is very old and worn and this car has only had one other owner besides myself who purchased it new. I just dont think he would have done something like this as he was 86 when I purchased the car from him a month ago.

Rick H: thanks for the info this will help alot

RC: Thanks heaps for the 15 degree and other info exactly what I was looking for.
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Rich H · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:38 am Post subject:

first thing to do is put the engine at TDC and find all the marks. Clean them up and fill them with whire paint so you can see them easily, make sure you can identify them too, as in tell +10 0 -10 while timing.

If it turns out that you can't find them when tuning, as in you turn the dizzy both ways until it stumbles and still can't see them, it is possible that the flywheel has been put on wrong. Makes things extra tricky...
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1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec

wombat · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:47 am Post subject:

ok ok ok,
fixed most of this, but have a series of new problems that I now need a hand with.

ONE: the light that is in the auto shifter to light up the gear you are in where does it sit I cant find a spot that it fits and seems right.

TWO: I have a switch in the console behind the shifter (after removing the ones that I knew were stupid add ons) this one that is left runs to a light that doesnt seem to work but is in the same spot as the shifter light I just talked about and then it goes to a black and white wire that is part of the original wiring running from near the shifter to behind the stereo din hole and then into the black hole (I cant chase it any further) any ideas.

THREE: does anyone know where I can get a decal for my auto shifter it has a spot for one but nothing is there.
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Rich H · Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:17 am Post subject:

I think that #2 is the front fog lamp light, is it a blue bulls eye type light?
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1994 Lotus Esprit S4 - Work in progress...
1980 Porsche 924 S2 DITC Turbo - Original spec
1978 Homo-Sapiens - Tired spec
1953 Landrover S1 - Pensioner Spec

wombat · Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:00 am Post subject:

wombat · Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject:

I found out about that funny badge on the back today. Apparantly it was fitted to all (australian at least) early 924's that were fitted with the optional handling package which included passengers outside mirror, alloy wheels, 18mm sway bar up front and 20mm sway bar at the rear all of which my car has. needed to get a part from the porsche dealer so I asked the guy didnt know but he pointed me to a sales guy who had clocked 35 years selling porsche's and problem solved.

now I also have a question if anyone is still reading this thread.

I adjusted the rear shoes and that was fine, then I went to get the front wheels off to do the rotors and pads which I have had sitting here for a while but have not gotten around to doing, and I couldnt. I have tried a breaker bar, a longer breaker bar and then worried a little, any ideas, I can apply more torque with a geared wrech setup but last time I tried this on a car I broke the socket before getting the nuts loose. I dont know who last worked on the wheels or I would take it back to them, I also have an impact gun but was reluctant to try any more incase I was turning the wrong way.

Final option I can see is if the bolts only enter the rotor I could either do some very fast stop start driving to heat up the rotor and try again or I could just drill the heads off replace the rotors with the ones I have, and get new lug bolts.

because these are bolts not nuts do they turn any differently or is one side reverse thread, or have I just been mistaken that you should turn bolts anticlockwise to loosen.
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