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seanski44  



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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:54 am    Post subject: 931 at the dyno... Reply with quote

At last year's titanic 944 register's trip to the Weltmeister dynometer, me and my bro tagged along with the 931 s2....

(am assuming he hasn't already posted this!)



http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYq1hpS4Aik
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so you've got 168 hp on the rear wheels?
That's a nice score as far as I know... if the factory says 170 on the crank...

Nicely made film by the way
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers. Yeah that was last year, unfortunately we've sold the car since then - factory specs (at the wheels) for UK spec was 177HP I believe. We hit 168.3HP, though the only mods were oversize pistons and a K&N...

thanks for your kind comment about the film too!


EDIT - MY MISTAKE ABOVE -MEANT TO SAY 'AT THE FLYWHEEL'
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what oversize did you use?
anyway..stock 168 WBHP clearly says something about the 924 turbo !!
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

morghen wrote:
what oversize did you use?
anyway..stock 168 WBHP clearly says something about the 924 turbo !!


It wasn't us who rebuilt it so I can't really tell you - the only thing is I remember when we replaced the head that the piston heads weren't stock - there are some photos on the board somewhere of them, I think they were the larger of the ones listed on PET.

The car was awesome - circumstances meant it had to go though - my brother's got a list of new and used parts we've got left over, I think he's posted them before (noisybrother) - that's him talking on the vid btw and his son
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PostPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea i know him. bought some stuff from him a couple o' weeks ago.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: 931 at the dyno... Reply with quote

seanski44 wrote:
At last year's titanic 944 register's trip to the Weltmeister dynometer, me and my bro tagged along with the 931 s2....

(am assuming he hasn't already posted this!)



http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYq1hpS4Aik
Thats cool!
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seanski44 wrote:
...factory specs (at the wheels) for UK spec was 177HP I believe.


I hate to be pedantic (especially when morghen is already rapt with the result ) but I think you'll find that 177hp figure quoted by Porsche for the "Euro/Rest-of-the-world" 924 Turbo is engine/flywheel/crank/whateveryawannacallit horsepower, not the horsepower at the wheels. I also think you'll find that figure is quoted as 177 PS (as I understand it, PS is German for "Pferdestärke", which literally means horsepower, but it is a metric unit, which is stated as slightly less than one 'international' horsepower, which is what the Yanks use, I think... am I getting tedious yet?). Anyways, the difference between 1 'international' horsepower, 1 Pferdestärke, 1 brake horsepower, etc, is negligible, really. But the difference between 'flywheel' horsepower and 'rear wheel' horsepower is not.
If your car is/was actually reading at 168-odd horsepower at the rear wheels -and I don't doubt for second that it was -that is a very impressive result! That puts you well over the factory-quoted power. Interestingly, Kye's apparently stock RoW 924 Turbo dyno'd at over 160rwhp...

Mine only hit 150rwhp

Cool vid
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khal wrote:
seanski44 wrote:
...factory specs (at the wheels) for UK spec was 177HP I believe.


I hate to be pedantic (especially when morghen is already rapt with the result ) but I think you'll find that 177hp figure quoted by Porsche for the "Euro/Rest-of-the-world" 924 Turbo is engine/flywheel/crank/whateveryawannacallit horsepower, not the horsepower at the wheels. I also think you'll find that figure is quoted as 177 PS (as I understand it, PS is German for "Pferdestärke", which literally means horsepower, but it is a metric unit, which is stated as slightly less than one 'international' horsepower, which is what the Yanks use, I think... am I getting tedious yet?). Anyways, the difference between 1 'international' horsepower, 1 Pferdestärke, 1 brake horsepower, etc, is negligible, really. But the difference between 'flywheel' horsepower and 'rear wheel' horsepower is not.
If your car is/was actually reading at 168-odd horsepower at the rear wheels -and I don't doubt for second that it was -that is a very impressive result! That puts you well over the factory-quoted power. Interestingly, Kye's apparently stock RoW 924 Turbo dyno'd at over 160rwhp...

Mine only hit 150rwhp

Cool vid



Think everyone's got this out of proportion - 168 is an extrapolated flywheel reading based upon a (lower) rearwheel reading extrapolated using Porsche's figures. The dyno software does this automatically. No stupid claims going on here, simply a (nearly) stock 931 and a video I wanted to share.

clear?
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a nice and well produced video.
Sure no speeding tickets were incurred either.

Good job. I enjoyed watching it.

Roger
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn you should have sushhed
however the other guy's 931 pulled it preety good.
Anyways its still only 2 hp down wich is realy good...you could get 170 or even more in a cooler day.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seanski44 wrote:
Think everyone's got this out of proportion... No stupid claims going on here, simply a (nearly) stock 931 and a video I wanted to share.


Sorry, mate! I only wanted to clarify. We all love watchin' toofahs doing anything.

seanski44 wrote:
...168 is an extrapolated flywheel reading based upon a (lower) rearwheel reading extrapolated using Porsche's figures. The dyno software does this automatically.

clear?


Yes, clear! I suspected that was the case.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, what a cool video and beautiful '31.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great car, great video.
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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers chaps!

(Khal, no worries, I made the original mistake when I said at the wheels when I meant at the flywheel)

What's next then, Top Gear??
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