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Street Legal
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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Location: South East MI
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 Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Raceboy wrote: | | I hope I'll get my $525 or stuff from who? Nemesis in my case. |
Raceboy, we were hoping to hear from you.
PM sent. |
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teo
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Location: Hungary, Europe
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| Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| 924RACR wrote: | I had the same concerns about StreetLegal. I have spoken directly and can confirm the legitimacy of this post... last thing I want is to see yet another scam by Mark et al!  |
OK, Boss, it's good to hear that.
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morghen
Joined: 21 Jan 2005
Posts: 9102
Location: Romania
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:34 am Post subject: |
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wtf...why this...semi-anonymus thing?...who are you guys afraid of? ONE guy ? maby two ...what the heck....you guys know where he/they live...go..ring at the door...get your stuff and get them/him to give you all the oversea deal goods and send them to the rightfull owners if you are such good people.
Pursueing a law suit wont get the goods in your home nor the money back...not to you..not to the guys overseas.
I'm not a victim.....almost was, but i dont think that you have the right to tell me to shut up on this thread....its just stupid to discuss this here without actualy doing something that could help.
so...my advice is for you guys to do it like we do it over here. Get some big boys with you if you think that he could hurt you or smth....go over...get the stuff using any methods your manly minds can think about....send the goods overseas...and then sue the ####. end.
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Street Legal
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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Location: South East MI
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| We prefer to operate within the law, rather than stooping to the level of the perpetrator. |
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gla924sem
Joined: 08 Nov 2002
Posts: 405
Location: Taylor, Michigan
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: hausebrauen |
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Am getting my info tot gether for you.
Hope to have my tale ready by next week by PM next. |
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Rasta Monsta
Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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Location: PacNW
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:26 am Post subject: |
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TIME OUT.
There are so many red flags waving in my head right now I needed to re-read the first post about ten times to clear them all up.
I am a practicing attorney in Oregon. The first post stated that "Street Legal Litigation Team" had been "retained" to "pursue legal action" against Nemmy, and was engaged in "discovery." He/they then stated that he/they were not lawyers, but had some sort of professional help.
I am not licensed in Michigan, nor have I reviewed Michigan law, but the assertions made in this thread would be illegal in Oregon as unlawful practice of law. I am further troubled by the anonymity of the poster.
Perhaps Street Legal is simply swept up in the moment of playing lawyer, but he/they should be extremely cautious about making these kinds of public assertions/representations about themselves and about Nemmy.
In the meantime, I must urge my friends on this board NOT TO PROVIDE ANY PERSONAL INFO TO STREET LEGAL until such time as he/they have made his/their identities known, and disclosed where he/they are getting their legal advice from, including name, address and phone number of an attorney.
Again, Street Legal may have just gotten a bit carried away, and his/their motivations might be pure as the driven snow, but this approach is fraught with danger for all involved.
And finally, this thread should be closed, and when the topic is breeched again, a less "cloak and dagger" approach should be followed.
James R. Gregory, Attorney at Law (Licensed in Oregon & Colorado)
3848 SE Division Street, #198
Portland, OR 97202
(503) 477-7166, (f) 477-7167
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Street Legal
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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Location: South East MI
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Rasta Monsta wrote: | | The first post stated that "Street Legal Litigation Team" had been "retained" to "pursue legal action" against Nemmy, and was engaged in "discovery." He/they then stated that he/they were not lawyers, but had some sort of professional help. |
We are a small group of members of this and other forums. Since civil and criminal action must be brought in the local jurisdiction, a local victim has been 'retained' to coordinate our collective efforts with local representation and law enforcement. The pursuit of legal action will be to initiate a civil lawsuit and/or to file a formal criminal complaint in Oakland County when sufficient initial evidence has been gathered (i.e. discovery). A local resource is required to file in either case.
| Quote: | | unlawful practice of law |
We are not practicing law, nor did we purport to. The services of a local victim have been 'retained' to coordinate the effort with local agencies. We are gathering our own evidence (i.e. 'discovery') to determine the feasibility of pursuing both a civil and criminal case. If a civil case is warranted, we will engage our attorneys. If a criminal case is warranted, we will turn over the results of our discovery to Mr. James Gorcyca, the Prosecuting Attorney of Oakland County, in which the alleged actions were perpetrated.
| Quote: | | I am further troubled by the anonymity of the poster. |
We are not anonymous to the admins, we are not anonymous to the victims, and we are not anonymous to the alleged perpetrator.
| Quote: | | In the meantime, I must urge my friends on this board NOT TO PROVIDE ANY PERSONAL INFO TO STREET LEGAL |
We have not requested nor have we received ANY personal information from any of the victims. Our discovery is limited to dates, item descriptions, dollar amounts, and the aliases used to perpetrate fraudulent activities. The victims who have contacted us can corroborate this statement. |
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D Hook
Joined: 02 Nov 2002
Posts: 3158
Location: Omaha, NE
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | wtf...why this...semi-anonymus thing?...who are you guys afraid of? ONE guy ? maby two ...what the heck....you guys know where he/they live...go..ring at the door...get your stuff and get them/him to give you all the oversea deal goods and send them to the rightfull owners if you are such good people.
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Uhhh....I think O.J. gave that a whirl recently and it hasn't gone over so well with the local constabulary. Something about an armed robbery charge or burgalary or something.
Rasta: You are right to call a big time out on this, just to be sure everyone gets the i's dotted and t's crossed. It's nice to know someone is watching out for this. Just wish there would've been more warnings before everyone lost so much to this guy.
(Aside: Rasta, I assume you're watching the game tonight, right? Just to say you saw it happen?) 
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:01 am Post subject: |
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| D Hook wrote: | | (Aside: Rasta, I assume you're watching the game tonight, right? Just to say you saw it happen?) |
Saw what happen, the brutal scalping of my beloved Ralphie, or the application of a Trojan to a corn cob?
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Rasta Monsta
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Street Legal -
Let me be more clear. If this case ends up in the hands of a prosecuter or civil attorney, the last thing those attorneys will want is to see is all this anonymous bullshit, and arguably misleading statements. If you are going to do this, do it above board, without hiding anything.
I'm not going to enter a debate with you on this, I will just ask board members not to go down the "Street Legal" path. This is the wrong approach.
James R. Gregory
PS, I have been a litigator for over ten years, and I know what the word "discovery" means. In the words of Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
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Street Legal
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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Location: South East MI
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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WARNING: ADDITIONAL ALIASES
fossilfuelvp@aol.com (discontinued email address, eBay, PayPal)
924_007 (eBay; banned)
Bullet924 (924board.org)
Fossilfuel (rennlist)
We have reason to believe that there are other aliases that were used which are still active, but we cannot conclusively link them to the perpetrator at this point. To avoid possibly incriminating innocent users, we will withhold these aliases until we have concrete evidence. Until then, we urge all users to exercise extreme caution when transacting business. We suggest re-reading the end of our original post for guidelines on how to avoid becoming the next victim.
DISCOVERY UPDATE
Since we first went public regarding this matter, we have received a number of confirmations, as well as many positive comments commending our efforts. However, (and understandably), there have been a few skeptics that have challenged the veracity of our claims.
In less than 36 hours since our initial post went live, we have had 8 more victims in at least 4 countries contact us with documentation. We have identified at least 22 other victims who have yet to contact us with details. We hope that some of these victims will come forward with more information.
For all of the skeptics, and for all of the concerned legal practitioners, we will be silent for the balance of this post. We will let the voices of the victims speak for themselves. We will let the actions and responses of the perpetrator corroborate the allegations of the victims.
VOICES OF THE VICTIMS
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=8374
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=8665
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=14029
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=14201
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=15345
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=185739
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=16051
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=17112
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=133954#133954
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=150410#150410
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18927
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19202
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19250
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19603
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19962
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=21002
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=22684
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=23032
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=285252
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=338585
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=366212
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=367302
ACTIONS & RESPONSES OF THE PERPETRATOR
An early discussion regarding the suspected aliases involved with Hausbrauen:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18713
Here the perpetrator talks to and about himself:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=150242#150242
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=150259#150259
The introduction of Sid, purported CFO of Hausbrauen:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18265
Once again, the perpetrator talking about himself:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=145521#145521
An earlier resurfacing and warm “welcome back” to the perpetrator:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=17114
Here is the perpetrator in self-righteous mode, decrying the actions of another now-defunct member
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=107345#107345
More posing under yet another alias
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=155356#155356
For a complete study, try these searches:
http://www.924board.org/search.php?search_author=Bullet924
http://www.924board.org/search.php?search_author=my924gtc
http://www.924board.org/search.php?search_author=NEMESIS
Most of the combatants’ posts have been edited, but you can see from the responses of others that the perpetrator physically threatened Mikri:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=14029
Discussion of the perpetrator getting banned from eBay under the alias 924_007:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=67368#67368
Yet another documented instance of uttering & publishing:
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?p=133954#133954
Discusses the perpetrator being dropped as sponsor of 944Cup due to bad business practices:
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=285252
More happy customers
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19276
http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=19202 |
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morghen
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:26 am Post subject: |
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oh i forgot you guys live in america...the country where you can sue your neigbour for holding a shovel in his hand and standing too close to your fence. 
I think you are wasting your time with this bullshit...i say police-raid the #### get whats yours and thats that. If you guys have any police friends get them to do a search for stolen goods and dont go into the court as these things usualy take years until they reach an end and you're never sure if you win or loose.
Continuing this street legal thing with the anonymus and the legal babble and discussion will only cause this board to recieve a certain label regarding this matter and these kinds of acts.....nobody would want that.
So what i'm saying....get it done quickly and as simple as possible.
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PwrGTOGuy
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| morghen wrote: | oh i forgot you guys live in america...the country where you can sue your neigbour for holding a shovel in his hand and standing too close to your fence.
I think you are wasting your time with this bullshit...i say police-raid the #### get whats yours and thats that. If you guys have any police friends get them to do a search for stolen goods and dont go into the court as these things usualy take years until they reach an end and you're never sure if you win or loose.
Continuing this street legal thing with the anonymus and the legal babble and discussion will only cause this board to recieve a certain label regarding this matter and these kinds of acts.....nobody would want that.
So what i'm saying....get it done quickly and as simple as possible. |
Ehhhh, we have that pesky bill of rights thing that prevents illegal search and seizure... anything obtained would be inadmissable...(Disclaimer: I do not have professional legal training, i'm talking out my ass.)
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morghen
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| Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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oh....well...then..good luck !
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Street Legal
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| Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:56 am Post subject: |
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We can now formally announce that the services of a local attorney have been retained. This individual is a personal friend of one of the original SLLT plaintiffs. He has agreed to provide his services during the initial phase of our efforts to reach a settlement with the perpetrator. Out of respect for his gracious offer of assistance, we wish to avoid overwhelming him with trivial and non-victim-related inquiries. Therefore, we will not disclose his information publicly.
However, we have already sent his contact information to the admins of 924board.org and Rennlist, as well as to each of the victims that have come forward to date. (If the admins of the Pelican board will contact us, we will share the same information with them). Anyone who seeks independent confirmation that our actions are legitimate, or that a practicing attorney has been retained, may contact the admins to inquire.
We have sent instructions to each of the victims that have contacted us regarding how to proceed (should they wish to do so). We welcome these victims to corroborate that we have sent them the attorney's information, and furthermore, to corroborate that we have in no way solicited personal information from them. Any additional victims who wish to pursue action against the perpetrator may continue to contact us via PM, or alternatively, may contact the admins for instructions.
The next phase of our effort will be in full swing within days. It will involve vigorous attempts to reach a settlement. We are also exploring our options with respect to law enforcement agencies. Given our current understanding of the allegations, we intend to contact the Oakland County Prosecutor (Mr. David Gorcyca), the Michigan State Attorney General's Office, and the local U.S. Attorney's Office.
We urge any additional victims to act quickly should you wish to pursue a settlement. In the State of Michigan, once criminal charges have been filed, the victims have little say in whether or not charges can be dropped in favor of a civil action.
More updates will be forthcoming in the weeks to follow.
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