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B

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 487 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: oil filter relocation |
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I was looking for an oil filter relocator kit and found several but none specifically for our application. Jegs had quite a few reasonably priced options but the closest I found was audi or vw. Does anyone know if our car shares a filter size with any of these or do you know where I might be able to find a place that sells these either as a kit or parts to make the kit? I checked the search - it told more of people using the kit to help feed oil to the turbo. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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B _________________ 1979 924 n/a
BAE turbo
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Check out whats available on ebay. Remember seeing universal types there that looked like they had an O ring seal and supplied different size centre bolts. Not sure of size now, maybe 20mm or so and actually listed most porsche models and Hondas too IIRC.
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Min

Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 2368 Location: Vernon, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Could just buy the correct transdapt adapter for the 924 block and run lines over to whatever for the oil filter location. The transdapt adapter is only like an inch tall as well.....
Min _________________ Custom means it didn't come from a box.
1980 n/a with EDIS and Megasquirt II Injection. 7 different colors and counting. |
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Smoothie

Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 8032 Location: DE (the one near MD, PA, NJ)
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:02 am Post subject: |
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The 924 filter thread size is 3/4"-16.
L k here -> http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18216 _________________ "..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."
'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox |
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RC

Joined: 25 Mar 2007 Posts: 2637 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Not sure what the thread on the other end of the male/male nipple is that screws into the block. I see the adaptors need a longer one that goes through the aluminium piece and screws into the block instead of the original.
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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Why do you need to move the filter, B. Do you need the room for something more interesting...?
Right-hand drive cars have a right angle adapter so the the filter clears the steering column. I was amazed to find last oil change that Porsche used an imperial (i.e. non-metric) thread size. I thought this might only be on the adapter, but Smoothie's post confirms the same thread is used in the block...  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it's imperial, and Racer Parts Wholesale (racerpartswholesale.com) sells rather inexpensive bits to accomplish this - that's where I got my parts, including a very good price on a very large oil cooler (8x11" - normally used for auto trannys). _________________ Vaughan Scott
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'82 931 Plat. Silver
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B

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 487 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Mike my reason for wanting to move the oil filter is to make it easier to get to and to move it away from the down pipe of the BAE kit that I am working on. I'm hoping this will be a little cooler for it and it may offer a minimal cooling affect for the oil. I'm also working on moving the alternator to the other side as well to keep it away from the heat and to provide more space for the turbo parts.
thanks Vaughan - I'll check racer parts wholesale - do they have a kit or all the parts? were they easy to work with?
Smoothie - thanks also for that size - it seems there are several kits that use that size if that is how the kit works. sorry I missed that on my search I checked filter relocation and I should have looked at filters as well
thanks everyone
B _________________ 1979 924 n/a
BAE turbo
5-speed snailshell |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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No, they don't really sell a kit - you piece together what you need. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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welder
Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 158 Location: cumberland,maine
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:19 am Post subject: |
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I bought a kit from JCWhitney. Their universal oil filter relocation kit. The trick here was not to use the rubber hose oil lines. As Vaughn found out racing years ago these rubber hoses will not last at all. You use the adapter plate that screws to the block and the filter adapter that accepts your oil filter. I located my filter just behind the radiator, in front of the alternator and attached to the frame. I then went to a hydraulic hose shop and had two, 36inch hoses with 90degree swivel ends made. (yes take your filter adapter with you so they can get matching thread sizes for the swivel ends) These hoses will take 1000 degrees of heat and about 2000 pounds of pressure. Yes I know thats overkill but this won't increase the cost. I payed 62 dollars for these hoses, (both together).For the record I had them doplicate the "Y" hose that attaches to the fuel accumulators at the same time for even less money. The origional hose was plugged at its narrowest point. Tremendous difference!!! The filter relocation gave me one more QT. oil capacity, and a serious drop in oil temp. Both these changes have made a marked difference in the the way my car ran, and these changes are cheap and easy to do. A big bang for the buck. _________________ I have a 78 n\a currently under restoration. |
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Keaton
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 261 Location: 85202
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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what about using the 931 oil housing to change the angle and it will give you a line to run an oil cooler.
you can do that right? a 931 oil filter housing on a 924 |
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augidog

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Posts: 1360 Location: New Jersey
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B

Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 487 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone
I found a universal kit at summit racing that comes with everything except the filter for about $34. The hoses are not steel braided - but it's plenty to get things started and set up - I figure that I can change those later. I am planning on running the lines up to the front, across and behind the radiator to the frame rail under the air box and horn area. does that sound like an ok area? it looked safe and would pass by the fan - maybe some extra cooling affect?
Thanks again for all of your help!
B _________________ 1979 924 n/a
BAE turbo
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9075 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 12:07 am Post subject: |
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That's a lot like the routing I'm using. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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