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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10, 13, and the especially the bushings in front of 15.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porsche does not sell the bushings for the coupler, they want you to buy part 8.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what one of mine looked like, the bushings are completely gone...

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd37b3127cce9cba4186a94700000016108AZuGrlozZtE
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the same car, a completely destroyed part 10.

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd37b3127cce9cba4187287600000016108AZuGrlozZtE
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's what I removed:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3dd37b3127cce9cba4185287400000016108AZuGrlozZtE
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a similar one for a 911, you can see the bushings.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what did you replace it all with?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khal and I are toasting you, see the picture of the day!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice!

After all that work I'd be tempted to have some metal bushes fabbed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They protect the shift forks from having to absorb all that wonderful vibration our cars produce, plus keep the shift lever from vibrating.

I got the part numbers for the bushings from the tech section and ordered them from my local dealer. Not too expensive, but they were not quite the right size since they fit the housing perfectly, but are loose on the pin.

Part 10 I bought on eBay, wasn't cheap. I believe Lizard used a heim joint instead...

I pulled all of this to rebuild the tranny and turbo....that was in March....of 2003!!!! When the tranny rebuild was delayed, I also yanked the motor and dash.

I guess it's about time to put it back together!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Porsche does not sell the bushings for the coupler, they want you to buy part 8.


You are right. But Pelican Parts sell the SAME bushings for the 914. They are after market but are of OEM qualify. A long while back I posted the part numbers for the bushings. Using the search function should reveal more info on the bushings if anyone is interested.
Whatever you do, DON'T buy the whole rod. A friend and fellow 924 Board member did and it cost him $500!!!!.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if the hole through the busings (part nr: 911 424 223 03 BTW) is round or somewhat oval. Looking at my old "not so worn" bushing it seems it might be oval and in that case maby my busing isn't worn after all (ballcup busing is on the other hand halfway gone)

My busings:

This is the one that is definetly gone (will be replace with a sollution like in the pics in this thread: http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=18374&highlight=914):



This is the one I'm asking about:



As you can see the hole looks oval on my picture above and the rod can be moved about 2 mm in the bushing. Is the bushing bad or is it ok?

If the hole should be completely round then I will consider making a bushing out of brassmetal but if it is supposed to be oval I will most probably order a new bushing from www.pelicanparts.com (might as well change it now when I have the parts removed from the car even if it is ok).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need new bushings and IMO they should not be metal unless you like your shift lever and shift forks to rattle...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
You need new bushings and IMO they should not be metal unless you like your shift lever and shift forks to rattle...


I will not use metal bushings then (even though it is mostly a racecar). Thanks for the advice. But are you sure about me needing new bushings in the #15 place? Here are a couple of pictures on the bushings when separated from the aluminum housing, to me they look almost like new:



You can see that there is a flat surface on two sides in the hole, you can also see that the actual hole is round (look att the edge) and that it is the two flat surfaces which makes the hole "oval":



The shiftrod is only possible to move about 2 mm back and forth. Sideways and up/down it is not loose. The fact that the bushings look to be very little worn makes me wonder if the 2 mm gap should maby be there for some reason? If so then I don't need to change these bushings, just swap the ballcup busing.

Has anyone a good picture or knowledge of how brand new bushings look compared to my bushings, escpecially in regards of the flat surfaces which makes the "oval" shape and the 2 mm movement back and forth. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Decided to copy my questions into a new thread in the tec section: http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=21414

Sorry for duble posting like that but I think it fits better in that section and as a separate thread.
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