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djeviltwin

Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 9:10 am Post subject: Just wanted to see what you guys think |
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I'm still donig what I can when I can get to my car. Not often enough though
It'll now turn and fire (used intake cleaner) but it's not starting. I took a look at my relays, and I saw (the lack of) light!
Water damage
Puled the fuel pump relay and opened it up. Board was burned. I found 433-906-059-M5252 at Pelican parts and I've an order in. Yay.... So long as the pumps are good, I'll be on the road!
The question I have...
Seems the PO pulled the Headlight flasher and low beam relay, and the "extra headlight relay".
I tried to get the Parts catalog from porsche, but I get just a blank screen.
my other project is a new computer as mine is dead and this one sucks
Pelican only lists part # 141-951-253-B-M5206 as "High Power Headlamp Relay". It's also listed as a "multi function" relay.
Will this work for my missing relays?
I know this post is long winded, but it's Friday and I don't get to work on the car this weekend. Just venting a bit. Should have the new relay by NEXT weekend!
Thanks in advance for all your input! _________________ 1982 924 ~pics coming.... soon |
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Ozzie

Joined: 12 Mar 2005 Posts: 4448 Location: Townsville, Qld. Australia
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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HIgh beam/low beam relay 411 941 583B.
The other will do for the extra headlamp, rear window heating or electric fan. _________________ Porsche 924 1984 (UK import) NA
Its AUTO and its BLACK
Montego Black on black/red
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djeviltwin

Joined: 13 Jun 2006 Posts: 29 Location: Northern CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Ozzie! I found the relay @ Pelican as a special order. @ $25.00 (us) still a better deal then the wiper relay!  _________________ 1982 924 ~pics coming.... soon |
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Late US 924 models do not use a headlight relay. Instead, Porsche deleted the headlight relay, and stuck a shorting bar in the relay socket across the switched power connectors in the relay socket.
So, you don't need a headlight relay in your 82. Just make sure that the shorting bar is still in there. |
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Late US 924 models do not use a headlight relay. Instead, Porsche deleted the headlight relay, and stuck a shorting bar in the relay socket across the switched power connectors in the relay socket.
So, you don't need a headlight relay in your 82. Just make sure that the shorting bar is still in there.
If you need a computer, I can fix you up with a SONY VARIO P4 desktop, or a Compaq P4 desktop computer really cheap. eMail me, I have one of each instock right now. |
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924guy

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 2088 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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just a thought here, as many are using upgraded h-4 headlights (not the sealed type) and even HID and such, if you have these upgrades, adding a head light relay because of the increased power requirements would be a good thing to do. the electrics in these cars arent designed for modern headlights, and the system can be easily over taxed (ie: melted) if you dont add a relay. _________________ Eric
78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
http://www.cardomain.com/id/924Guy
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know too much about HIDs, but H4s don't draw any more current than the sealed beams; they're just brighter.
HIDs should draw less current, because they're much more efficient... _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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924guy

Joined: 29 Dec 2003 Posts: 2088 Location: Port St. Lucie, FL
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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that all depends on the rating of the h4's you put in. stick a set of 100/80 upgraded h-4 headlights in our cars with small gauge, original 20+ year old wiring and its rolling dice even with adding a relay. might be okay, might melt your light switch or worse, ... just keep wattage and resistance in mind, those are what'll get ya...
if you consider that most cars have had their radios upgraded by now, among other things, the electrics could easily already be beyond rated specs and most of us wouldnt even know. now add more "stuff" and you have the potential for some serious issues. some might think that just because its 12 volts itll work, and in many cases that is true. But its a good idea to consider amps and watts when installing accessories. think of your wiring as a water pipe or an air hose. they can only take so much pressure before they blow a hole in the side, electric current works in a similar manner, but with many more variables like resistance, wattage, and amperage, which can change values while supplying the voltage as well, depending upon load and temperature. it can get prettty complicated, but the bottom line is that before adding accessories, especially permantly installed ones, do a little research, use a voltmeter (or learn to use one) so you can do it safely and things will work the way you need them too.. _________________ Eric
78 924
82 931 SE "smokey"
99' VehiCross
Y2K Honda Insight
http://www.cardomain.com/id/924Guy
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| 924guy wrote: | | ... 100/80 upgraded h-4 headlights |
Sorry, Eric, I thought you were refering to the standard H4s fitted to later cars. I should read posts more carefully...  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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