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jaxrepo

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 162 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: Is it a 924 euro?? - How can tell?? |
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Hi: 1979 924 available here in FL. Seller thinks it is a euro version. Any way I can determine for certain?? Does a euro 924 have more value than a US version?? Many thanks!! _________________ 83/86 944 Parts cars (2)
78 924 Parts car
84 944
88 924S Parts car
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P924
Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 57 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:09 am Post subject: |
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U can see it, the euro and US don't have the same bumpers and the US version has less HP _________________ 924 1981
911T 2.2 |
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-nick

Joined: 16 Nov 2002 Posts: 2699 Location: Cambridge, MA
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:25 am Post subject: |
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| The serial number on the block will start with "XK", or "XJ" if it's an RoW car. US version are either "XE" or "XG". Not to mention it should have the sidemarker lights on the fenders, Euro bumpers, no cat, and the speedo is probably in km/hr |
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jaxrepo

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 162 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: |
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Hi: Am awaiting email pics of it. All I could get from a phone conversation was that it does not have the round front side marker lights. Runs but needs paint, rims & interior work The rims have been sold. Seller wants $500. Sounds like a maybe ... after seeing pics. _________________ 83/86 944 Parts cars (2)
78 924 Parts car
84 944
88 924S Parts car
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jaxrepo

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 162 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Hi: Got the pics & now am really confused. Has a rear deck rubber spoiler?? Has but one large windshield wiper?? Front bumper different - has large empty gaps next to signal lights. Front side markers are box oblong ala a 944, but fenders definitely 924. rear side markers are round but are in-line with bumper instead of being much higher up on body. Is this someones custom attempt or a euro 924? _________________ 83/86 944 Parts cars (2)
78 924 Parts car
84 944
88 924S Parts car
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9108 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: |
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VIN number through the decoder should tell ya for sure... _________________ Vaughan Scott
Webmeister
'79 924 #77 SCCA H Prod racecar
'82 931 Plat. Silver
#25 Hidari Firefly P2 sports prototype |
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jaxrepo

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 162 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:24 am Post subject: |
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How do I find the vin# decoder?? Is it on this site or elsewhere? Thanks again. _________________ 83/86 944 Parts cars (2)
78 924 Parts car
84 944
88 924S Parts car
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N-Dub

Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 219 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah
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Mike924

Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 2601 Location: IoW UK
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Not an expert, but this does not sound like a genuine Euro-spec car to me.
Much more likely it's a US car with an incomplete Euro front bumper and front wings (fenders). The gaps next to the turn signal are for driving lights. It's probably going to be hard to get originals to fill the gaps in the US.
I don't think the Euro versions are necessarily worth more than the US one; they're just faster and look nicer!  _________________ 1985 Porsche 924 'Lux', Kalahari Beige (my ex)
1993 Porsche 968 Coupe, Midnight Blue, 6 spd
'There is no substitute for a little grease under your fingernails.' - Chrenan, 924board.org |
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PORSCHEV

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 1901 Location: Cedar Lake Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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IMO the euro are worth more...seems most 924 owners would love to have the euro bumpers...and I think everyone would rather have 125 hp vs 95 hp. _________________ 1976 924
5 lug conversion, 17'C2 wheels,custom body work,327 vette engine.
1978-#53 "D" track racer. |
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J1NX3D

Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1333 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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ive seen a few cases of euor cars imported into the US with makeshift reflectors, etc to make them compliant. _________________ '86 944 |
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Vince Ponz

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3581 Location: Florida
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sometimes a gray market of early euro car comes to the US and has to be certified regarding safety etc. The round side markers were put on and if removed you will find that the rear fenders are flat instead of indented to accomodate the side marker.
Add on spoiler/hatch a plus
Single wiper Wow never saw this
Check vin number
Engine on the euro would have higher compression rating, same bore
Side markers oblong on fenders
Check Vin number
no cat but that could have been added to meet qualifications
This is not scientific but if the dash is cracked then it is a US car in my opinion. My US car is badly cracked, my euro is not at all.
Fiberglass front and rear bumpers
AS FOR FOG LIGHTS I HAVE A SET FOR SALE TO FIT THE BUMPER. _________________ "Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock |
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J1NX3D

Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 1333 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
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This is not scientific but if the dash is cracked then it is a US car in my opinion. My US car is badly cracked, my euro is not at all.
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my euro n/a had a badly cracked dash...  _________________ '86 944 |
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jaxrepo

Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Posts: 162 Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 12:10 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Vince, I think you nailed it on this car. The side markers appear to be non-functional "paste ons" From the poor pics the dash has no cracks at all. The bumpers are fibreglass & the front one is busted up with the lights next to the signals missing - Nice to know you have a set, I will definitely need them if I get this car. Am hoping I can fibreglass repair the front bumper. Only one windshield wiper is visible in the pictures - perhaps there are two.
The seller is a Florida based new & used Fiat parts distributor with a 840 Ebay score & a 96.9 feedback score. Also sells Porsches & has three 944's & two 914's for sale (grossly over priced) on Ebay now. Claims he is thinning out his Porsche inventory. The car has no tiitle, but the seller says "piece of cake - I'll get you a title", Grey market car? - I wonder??
Kind of an arrogant, braggard type dude - when I asked for the vin # he responded with: "It is a $500 car, do you want it or not" Anyway, he was supposed to call me back with the vin# yesterday, but has not.
If the vin reads 92491nnnn, I am still a player - will keep all posted as this develops. Dick. _________________ 83/86 944 Parts cars (2)
78 924 Parts car
84 944
88 924S Parts car
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Peter

Joined: 04 Nov 2002 Posts: 379 Location: New York, NY
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| The Euro's also have a transmission with taller gearing (ask Vince about this one), and usually non-sunroof, non-A/C, manual windows, no door beam, different air-box snorkle ... or atleast mine does. |
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