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bigjimbo
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Chino,CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:10 am Post subject: "WOULD IT WORK" |
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| I was going to buy a oil cooler collar, but I was going to ask you guys first. It's this finned aluminum cooler that goes around your oil filter that cools down your oil temperature by 12 PERCENT. (They claim) It's sold in Mid America Motorworks and it's price is at $34.99. Do your guys think that it works. It's the easiest and cheapest way to cool down your engine oil. What do you guys think? |
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gohim
Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 4459 Location: Rialto, CA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Will the thing cool down your oil ANY? Yes, it probably would. ANY HEATSINK would probably be better than no heatsink. BUT, I don't know if the oil temperature would be lowered enough to be measurabled, and I doubt if you will get a 12% reduction. There is also the question of clearance. The exhaust runs very close to the oil filter, and a heatsink could just as easily pick up heat thrown by the exhaust, and direct it into the oil, instead of helping to remove heat from the oil.
If you want need an oil cooler, there is no substitute for an oil cooler. |
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wuilman

Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 93 Location: san francisco california
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: oil cooler |
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your best bet would be to go with an external oil cooler. theyre fairly inexpensive and fairly simple to install (assuming you have SOME mechanical experiance). for the guys with automatic trannies an external cooler works miracles as far as longevity goes (unless your tranny has pre-existing problems)we seldom have to install ext. coolers, when we do its because of cooler flow restrictions in the radiator. [/b] _________________ wonder what this button does.......oh! |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9103 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm with gohim - I wouldn't expect it to do much for you under the exhaust, and I'd actually be more worried about it adding heat, more likely.
Let's get back to step one. Are you having issues with oil pressure or water temps? What are you trying to solve with this? Once we understand that, we can recommend the best plan of action. _________________ Vaughan Scott
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 3:22 am Post subject: |
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There's already a good factory oil cooler with a thermostat. Think 931  _________________ '81 931 in various states of assembly |
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leadfoot

Joined: 11 Dec 2002 Posts: 2222 Location: gOLD cOAST Australia
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Good if it works, but the problem being it slows down the rate in which oil would get up to operating temp, go to a used car lot and get a second hand one off a wreck and adapt it.
Leadfoot _________________ 1981 ROW 924 Turbo -
carbon fiber GT mish mash
LS1 conversion in progress... |
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Paul

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 9491 Location: Southeast Wisconsin
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:08 am Post subject: |
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The 931 adaptor has a thermostat. _________________ White 87 924S "Ghost"
Silver 98 986 3.6l 320 HP "Frank N Stein"
White 01 986 "Christine"
Polar Silver 02 996TT. "Turbo"
Owned and repaired 924s since 1977
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Porsche924boy

Joined: 25 Mar 2005 Posts: 252 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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You can get a externial oil cooler from Automotion.com Its a set up so that you can put a collar before the oil filter and it come with piping to send it to the cooler. _________________ What i own:
1995 Ford F150 Eddie Bauer 4X4
1995 F250 PowerStroke Diesel
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Or, you could get a 931 oil cooler that is a 100% bolt on installation, has a thermostat, and was put together by Porsche engineers. Call me crazy, but I'd go for the Porsche solution over whatever aftermarket brands that automotion is peddling. _________________ '81 931 in various states of assembly |
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924RACR

Joined: 29 Jul 2001 Posts: 9103 Location: Royal Oak, MI, USA
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Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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There's nothing wrong with the aftermarket stuff outright, and it's easier to plumb to larger coolers; the factory stuff uses an odd size (30mm) fitting that's very expensive to adapt out of if you want to use a larger cooler.
However the sandwich plate adapter is not ideal, since it puts the oil filter (on the NA) closer to the exhaust manifold - some have reported needing to use a shorter (914?) filter. Better to use a remote mount as I have, plus you can mount it upright to reduce spillage.
Finally, don't you have a problem hitting the starter with the oil filter when putting the 931 oil cooler setup on an NA? _________________ Vaughan Scott
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geddes66

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 129 Location: Bakersfield CA
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:05 am Post subject: |
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I have also heard that a 931 setup will hit the starter. That is whi I passed up the chance to grab one when I had it. Hope I didn't goof. _________________ The Porsche is now my son's, my car is cooler, slower but cooler. |
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CBass

Joined: 03 Nov 2002 Posts: 2807 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:36 am Post subject: |
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| 924RACR wrote: | There's nothing wrong with the aftermarket stuff outright, and it's easier to plumb to larger coolers; the factory stuff uses an odd size (30mm) fitting that's very expensive to adapt out of if you want to use a larger cooler.
However the sandwich plate adapter is not ideal, since it puts the oil filter (on the NA) closer to the exhaust manifold - some have reported needing to use a shorter (914?) filter. Better to use a remote mount as I have, plus you can mount it upright to reduce spillage.
Finally, don't you have a problem hitting the starter with the oil filter when putting the 931 oil cooler setup on an NA? |
That's why you go to a 931 bellhousing and starter Easier to get at anyways. _________________ '81 931 in various states of assembly |
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bigjimbo
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Chino,CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Well I dont know if I could adapt an oil cooler because I have clearance issues. I have Bursch headers on this 924. OK, Im able to work on cars Im no expert, but I will be able to install an oil cooler if its possible. Is it possible to install an oil cooler from a 924turbo(931)? I just want to reduce the engine oil temperature because it could get dangerously hot for my engine because it gets very hot here in California. (I live in a desert). |
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bigjimbo
Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 77 Location: Chino,CA
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| Is it possible to insatall an oil cooler from a 1989 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe on my 924? It has an 2.3L turbocharged four cylinder engine. Im just asking because someone told me that its possible but I had to make sure. NEED HELP. |
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D Hook

Joined: 02 Nov 2002 Posts: 3158 Location: Omaha, NE
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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I would expect you could adapt an oil cooler from a D8 Catepillar if you had enough time and money. But I'm not so sure it would be prudent.
Do you have problems with the cooling system? _________________ '80 924 n/a SOLD |
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