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What car is the better deal?
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Neil924  



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:30 am    Post subject: What car is the better deal? Reply with quote

1998 M3 with 50,000 miles, white ext, black leather int, 2 door, 5 speed - dealer serviced and loaded

or

1998 540i with 50,000 miles, black ext, tan leather int, 4 door, 6 speed NOT auto - dealer serviced and loaded.

Also which is the better and more likely deal?

The M3 at $21k Canadian

or

The 540i at $16k Canadian

I'm pretty sure I can buy both car at those prices.

Thanks


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this may just come down to functional intent - I have a wife and two kids, so in my scenario I would elect for the 540i - just for the space. However, if it were pre wife and kids, I think the M3 would have my attention.

thats my $.02

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screw function, which is the better deal? I really won't be racing either car for any long lenght of time, so I don't even know if I'll "use" the whole M3 but it seems like a good deal as does the 5 series....
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm...this is just a quick, uneducated opinion...but 5-speed vs auto...I'd rather use my left foot
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M3 with 5speed/ 2 door would be nicer in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lease a new one, that way you get a 4 year warranty that includes all maintenance (at least in the US).

Old BMWs are a money pit.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Lease a new one, that way you get a 4 year warranty that includes all maintenance (at least in the US).

Old BMWs are a money pit.

Paul Paul Paul, these words coming from you?! Did the Porsche Gods put you up to this? BE STRONG!

Do you really think I should pay $1,200 per month for a car I won't own and more than double my insurance?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Lease a new one, that way you get a 4 year warranty that includes all maintenance (at least in the US).

. . . Old BMWs are a money pit.
maybe BMWs was a typo, maybe he meant "Leases are a money pit"?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been leasing new cars for decades, if you negotiate them correctly, they are a good deal.

Cars are an expense, not an investment.

In the US, you can lease a new BMW for $400 a month, hell my Boxster is less than $500.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.international-autos.com/img/ads/0.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW the insurance on the Boxster costs me $43.35 per month.

The 924S costs $32.59.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
I've been leasing new cars for decades, if you negotiate them correctly, they are a good deal.

Cars are an expense, not an investment.

In the US, you can lease a new BMW for $400 a month, hell my Boxster is less than $500.
a.) cars are an expense, but I've never owed more money than I've sold a car for - so just as in leasing, if you buy the car correctly, you can get a good deal.

b.) leasing is not for everyone - the general rule of thumb is, if you expect to or don't mind having a car payment, then you ought to consider leasing. Additionally, if you are the type of person who just needs to have the latest and greatest (hence don't mind having a car payment) then its a good chance leasing is right for you.

c.) however, if you're anything like me and most people I know, a car payment is less desireable to have. So buying is going to tend to be the better route.

Personally, I feel that no matter what, buying is better. But as I haev pointed out, each scenario is different.

Paul, I happy for you in that your life style can afford you the luxury to lease. I can't imagine being able to afford $400-$500 a month for car note - must be nice.
Paul wrote:
BTW the insurance on the Boxster costs me $43.35 per month.

The 924S costs $32.59.
definitely can't be full coverage
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The M3.I've also been considering one of those,it's a toss up between that or a 2006 MX-5 which i'd add a turbo to later on down the road once the warrenty has run out.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those prices are for full coverage, the lease requires it on the Boxster.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawn Wright
What should I look for?



IMO, the most important thing is getting a CPO'd/Factory Warranted M. (CPO = Certified Pre-Owned)


Quote:
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I want 6 speed and newer body style like 2002 or so. When do they start looking like the 2002 and when do they change?



The E46 M came out in 2001. I've heard rumors of the new M coming out anywhere between 2007 and 2008.


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Originally Posted by Shawn Wright
What goes wrong with them?



Lots... Things as simple as the interior door trim (I know, cause mine just fell), the front door speaker rattle, rear deck rattle and some simple electrical items. On the major side is quite a few rear-ends have needed to be replaced. Expect to replace tires quite frequently also.

I'm not trying to say these cars have more problems than other cars, but the cost to maintain them can be expensive especially if you don't have the free maint program/warranty.



Copied that from http://www.hotbimmer.com/

Goto forums and do a search. Or post the question. Seems to be very knowledgeable people there that can give you first hand experience.

My brother-in-law was looking at an M3 then shied away after he did some research. Looks like the Certifed Pre-Owned is the best way to go since it comes w/warranty and these cars had some history of crankshaft problems and rear-end problems, from what I've read on the Hotbimmer.com web site. I have no first hand knowledge myself, only what I've read on the websites.

Good luck.
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