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[timstar92404]

While driving home today my blinkers suddenly stopped working.

After replacing my dash a few weeks ago they didn't work so I removed the blinker switch and cleaned it with alcohol and put it back in the steering wheel and it started working again.

its been working for the past few weeks and now when I put either blinker on the green light is just solid with no blinking and the turn signal lights don't come o n at all.

I doubt a wire just came off from driving.

I think the switch may need to be cleaned or maybe the relay went bad suddenly?

where can I quikckly get a relay from?





another thing. This morning I looked under my car and there was a small puddle of coolant under my car (maybe the diameter of an apple) and there were small drops on the oil pan (the puddle was also below the oil pan/ belts area).

I looked at the water pump which is still pretty new and there was no coolant around it nor any collant on the hose going to the water pump so I have no idea where it came from.

then today when I parked and came back to my car I noticed a puddle of water under the car again , again in the same area but this time it was just clear and not green.
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[Mike924]

Hi, Tim.

Your blinker problem is most probably the relay, but take it out first and try and test it out of the car to be sure. A new relay ought to be had at any motor factors'; they are pretty common items across a whole range of cars. If they haven't got you car listed, tell then tell them it's for your girlfriend's Golf.

Your water leak could well be coming from the main bottom hose from the radiator, where it joins onto the block. This is close to the oil pump and it gets softened by oil leaking around that area and can then start to leak. If this is the case, you'll need to replace the hose, but check it first: If it feels firm where it joins the block, it OK; if it feels like jelly, it's gone.

You'll need to fix that water leak quickly, because it's coming out at a fair rate (and it'll probably get worse). Keep topping up the reservoir in the meantime.
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[timstar92404]

its really weird I have replaced all the coolant hoses except the one on top with the red bleeder plug but that is not leaking.



what do youmean the hoase that goes to the block?

I thought the big hose going from the radiatior to the water pump was leaking put I felt around it and around the water pump and it was not leaking.

I thought my water pump had failed again (new pump less than a year ago) but it doesn't look like it. When I iddle the car for even ten minutes I can't see coolant dripping from anywhere.


I guess I'll have to look some more.



how do you test the relay? is it common for a relay to suddenly go bad?


I'll go see if lordco or napa carries the relay. if that doesn't work could be the switch behind the steering wheel has some dirt on it again.
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[timstar92404]

oh yeah I almost got in a huge crash on the way home today.

This van was driving at night with non of the lights on and driving like 35km/h in a 50km/zone on a one lane street.

so I got tired driving 30 km/ h behind him and he was moving towards the curb like he was going ot pull over so I started speeding up and going in the middle turning lane to pass him when suddenly he also starts speeding up and starts going back into the centre and towards the centre turning lane where I was driving ot pass him. The guy did not see my car and was driving right into me. I had to swerve into the oncoming traffic lane and then quickly drive back into my lane infront of him.


I know its illegal to drive in the centre lane but this guy was pissing me off driving 30km/h with no lights on and then almost driving into me without even noticing.


People here are such horrible drivers. Another time this really old guy was driving me off the road driving between two lanes in his cadillac.
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[timstar92404]

I fixed the blinker it was just the relay.


I still can't figure out where the coolant leak is coming from.

when the car is iddling I don't see coolant dripping from anywhere. there is no coolant running down the big coolant pipe going to the water pump from the radiator and non of the other pipes seem to be leaking.


whenever I drive my car and then park it and then come back there is a tiny bit of coolant under the water pump area, today it happened both times when I parked and its only the size of a dollar and dips on the pavement.

All I can think of is that coolant leaks out of the little hole in the water pump after the car is shut off and parked.


do I need to immediately replace my water pump ? i'm not 100% sure its coming out of the pump but I can't think of anything

my water pump is less than a year old its a Altrom, Graf water pump from lordco could be its failing that soon.
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[Viking]

Waterpumps are cheap compared to the damages you get if it engine overheats due to massive coolantloss.

You should find out if the water is coming from the weephole on the waterpump. Water coming out there is a sure sign that it needs replacement.

If it's not weeping, go to a gasstation or some place that sells carparts and pick up some stuff you can pour into your coolant system to seal leaks. It's a cheap and easy way of plugging small leaks.

In the meantime, carry water with you at all times, and top off often.

[timstar92404]

well right now its not leaking enough to cause me too top it off.

like I said everytime I park after driving after like 10 mins or so I come back and I see a bit of coolant under the waterpump/ hose area.

sometimes its really small like a little bigger than a dollar coin.

I felt around the coolant hoses attached to the water pump and none are wet so I figure it must be the seep hole but that area didn't feel wet either but I did once feel a bit of coolant around the water pump but I couldn't see where it was from.

it doesn't look like a hose because when the car is iddling and hot if it was a leaking hose you would see it start to leak but I can't see this.
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[BC77-924]

Forget about the commerical stop leak products you can buy.
The stuff just makes the problems worse.
Take about 2 tablespoons of black pepper (yup the stuff you put on your steak). Add it to your coolant. It will seal up the leak if it is not too big. I have tried this on other cars. It really works.
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[timstar92404]

black pepper?

I don't really want to add anything to my cooling system it'll probably mess it up more by clogging things up.

I had to flush the cooling system many times because the coolant would still have crap floating around it in like sand and bits of rusted metal.


If my pump is leaking for sure i'll have to buy another pump but I don't want to buy the same brand again so I'll have to order it off the net.
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[timstar92404]

would the Geba OEM water pumps from the net be the best quality brand?
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[Ozzie]

Have you checked all you hose clamps?
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[Viking]

Don't bother changing the pump unless it's actually broken. It's not expensive, but I'm sure you're better off spending your money on replacing things that are actually broken.
Maybe you could try to tape something below the weephole after you turn the car off to see if it's actually coming from there before you do anything drastic. Cotton or a small piece of paper?
If it's dry afterwards, but there is a small puddle under the car, use something in the coolant to stop the leak. Commerical proudcts exist, I used one, and it plugged my leak.
Black pepper was suggested here, and a friend suggested cinnamon to me for my leak.

[Rob O]

Does your fan stay on after you shut the car down? If not, this could be heat soak. If the car is good and hot and then you shut it down and the fan does not stay on, the coolant in the expansion tank may build up enough pressure to force its way out past the cap and into the overflow line. Follow the rubber overflow line from the base of the cap and see if that is where the fluid seems to be coming from.

Rob
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[numbbers]

Well guys, I ran my OEM water pump for about 15 years, and it never leaked. But, one time, when I was replacing the timing belt, I decided to go ahead and change the water pump. I put a NAPA aftermarket pump in, and after two years it started leaking. I replaced it last year with a german manufactured pump that I bought new off of ebay, and now that pump is leaking also. I should have left the original alone.
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[Paul]

My grandfather was employed as an auto mechanic from 1917 to 1969, once said what many others have said:

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

But he did not live long enough to work on a 924S!
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