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[J1NX3D]

I see the sway bar mounts come off the control arms for our cars, PET shows the 944 swaybar is setup different, does anyone have any pics, etc of the 944 swaybar setup? is it easy to convert?
TIA!
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'86 944

[Smoothie]

There were 3 versions of stabilizer bar mounts and 2 different bar shapes.
'76-early'82 924 got the first versions of bar shape and mount that you're probably familiar with - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/smoothies931pics/detail?.dir=/34d0&.dnm=9063.jpg&.src=ph
Late'82-early'85 924-944 and '86-'88 924S with steel A-arms got the second version of the mounts (the center of the bar is attached via drop-links and the ends are mounted directly to the bottoms of the A-arms) and the second bar shape that's common to late'82-'95 924-944-944s2-968 - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/smoothies931pics/detail?.dir=/34d0&.dnm=53a8.jpg&.src=ph
Late'85-'95 944s2-968 with aluminum A-arms got this one (the 3rd version of the mounts and second version of the bar shape) -
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/smoothies931pics/detail?.dir=/34d0&.dnm=6b12.jpg&.src=ph

Are you looking to convert from early 924 to the early 944 bar and mounts?
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"..it's made in Germany. You know the Germans always make good stuff."


'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox

[J1NX3D]

thanx smoothie, that makes a bit more sense than looking straight at PET.

I got a pair of new control arms from the States that were stated as 924 '77-83, 944 '82-85 and when i got them i noticed the difference between what i had on the car and what i was sent.

how easy is it to convert to the 944 front stabiliser setup? im guessing this is a better setup and allows bigger front stabilisers from later early 944's?
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'86 944

[Chrenan]

J1NX3D,

You should read my thread here:

http://www.924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=16612&start=0

It has to do with my installation of new control arms (from Paragon in the US). My last post there deals with how to adapt the early style stabilizer bar to the new contral arms. It is possible. If my post there doesn't make sense I can elaborate.

Chrenan
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan

[Smoothie]

If you're converting from early 924 to early 944, the end mounts are easy enough. They're shaped to fit the bottom of the A-arm in a specific spot (maybe give or take 1/4" or so), so it's a simple matter of holding the mount to the A-arm, probably center it within that 1/4" range, mark and drill holes for it. Then measure the placement of that one and place the other sides' mount at the same relative position.
Then the center mounting holes on the frame... they're arranged in opposite directions comparing early 924 to early 944. The 924 holes are front-back while the 944s' are side-side. You should at least be able to use one of the existing holes, then mark and drill the second one. A complication here is that they're threaded holes, so you'd have to either make the new hole threaded in some way (threaded insert, weld on a drilled and tapped steel plate, etc.) or feed a bolt through the inside of the frame and out through the top of the hole, then secure with a nut from below (this would probably require drilling another larger hole in the frame somewhere to feed the bolt through).

My car's a late '82 and had a factory installed late '82 924-931, early 944 style bar. It was 20mm in diameter. I'd assume it's available in a variety of sizes since the same type of bar was used on 944-944S2-951-968.
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'82 924T, US version, dark green metallic, 5 speed Audi 016G gearbox

[J1NX3D]

thanx again smoothie! thats some good info. i'll go with what Chrenan has done for now, just because i have all the hardware already though converting to 944 style stabilizers at a later date might be on the cards.

Chrenan, have you had any problems since doing your setup like that? it sounds like an easy fix!
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'86 944

[Vince Ponz]

I have a 25mm front sway bar on my converted 77.5 car with a early 944 setup.

I welded the 944 straps on the rails and hung the swaybar and attached the ends to the A arms. Under the arms like the 944 they came off off.

Problems let me know.

Vince
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"Never let them see you sweat"
77.5 924 modified track car
79 931 Euro stock
88 924S SE
87 911 Targa stock

[Andrew NZ]

Have a look at mine next time you call around, I've done a similar thing. It still holding together, and you know how hard I push mine!!
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Andrew
1977 RX924 race car
12a bridgeport supercharged
www.race4-dcup.co.nz

[J1NX3D]

[Chrenan]

Nope, no problems yet. Just took it for a long jaunt on the highway at good speed and no problems. Also driven it a fair bit around town, lots of corners, no problems there either. I'd give it a try, the holes on the control arm are meant to take a sway bar, and the links fit...
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan

[J1NX3D]

sounds great! So whats the diameter of the hole all up? is it a snug fit?
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'86 944

[Chrenan]

The front link attachment hole on each control arm will need to be opened up a bit. I just went with the biggest drill bit I had, which was a few mm bigger than the existing hole. Once that was done, I was able to slide the drop links through the holes with no binding. I also re-shaped the edges of the bushings a bit with a grinder as they were interfereing with the edge of the control arm and not seating properly. I don't think it was really neccessary, with some effort you could probably squezze things to make them fit no problem, but it was easier just to shave a bit off the edges of the rubber busings (the ones that contact the control arms).
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1987 951 - M193 Version for Japan