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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:50 am    Post subject: fuel system components Reply with quote

well one in particular, that screw that fits over the fuel lines for the fuel distributor and injectors - where is a place to buy they besides the dealership? I break them very easily because of those holes that let fuel flow through them is such a weak point. I fashioned one of my own, but it is not as good as the original.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you're talking about Banjo bolts, you can get them off of any WV Rabbit or other CIS vehicle at a wrecker.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The banjo bolts are not that easy to break, and they are not supposed to be tightened up super tight. Are you having a problem with leaks?

Make sure that you replace the copper sealing rings that are supposed to be located on each side of the banjo bolt every time you unscrew one. Use a torque wrench with the correct rating (75%-85% of full range is the sweet spot on most torque wrenches), and you will stop breaking them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

use copper seals and you wont have to break them no more...i did trash one myself and i got one from a corrado 2.0
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the torque specification for most of the banjo bolts is 8 Nm, which is only 6 ft-lb. You'll need a small, precision torque wrench for this job (not the one you use for hub nut, etc! )

...and use new copper washers.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Crush washers.where to get them???????????? Reply with quote

What are the specs on the crush washers for the banjo bolts on the fuel distrib? The fuel/feed lines, as well as the injector bolts. Also, where do you get them? I found out quick that Auto Zone and Advance Auto aren't going to be much help.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Crush washers.where to get them???????????? Reply with quote

rksmotorsports wrote:
What are the specs on the crush washers for the banjo bolts on the fuel distrib? The fuel/feed lines, as well as the injector bolts. Also, where do you get them? I found out quick that Auto Zone and Advance Auto aren't going to be much help.


They're not 'crush' washers like you find on spark plugs; they're simply plain soft copper washers.

I think |(from memory) the torque settings for all the joints are 8 Nm (6 ft-lb), except the main fuel line coming into the fuel distributor which is 10 Nm (8 ft-lb), but I'll check tonight for sure.

I've not been able to find the washers at local parts dealers, but a VW dealer ought to stock them. They shouldn't be expensive (even from VW!).
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For $75 I bought a whole 'drawer' or tray from a Wenzer truck. Bought it through one of the local import repair shops. Now I have a lifetime supply of all the sizes I need except the oil drain. Worth it to me, once and done.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the washers today from an obscure, local Euro shop. I guess that means I get to go to work........lol
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jolly good.

So... just for completeness here are the sizes, torques, etc for the fuel couplings, culled from a trawl through PET and the Haynes manual:

Fuel filter inlet: 14 mm (internal hole size of washer) , 14.5 ft-lb

Fuel filter outlet: 12 mm, 7 ft-lb (most probably)

Fuel pump outlet (3 washers required), 12 mm, 14.5 ft-lb

Fuel distributor inlet and return lines: (4), 12 mm, 7 ft-lb

Warm up regulator - upper connector: (2), 10 mm, 11 ft-lb

Warm up regulator - lower connector: (2), 8 mm, 7 ft-lb

Fuel dist. control line adapter: (1?), 12 mm (?), 11 ft-lb

Master pressure regulator plug (in fuel dist.): 10 mm(?), 9 - 11 ft-lb

All other fuel lines: (16?), 8 mm, 7 ft-lb
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