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Paul  



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice that the brake master cylinder is still on the left side. How is this accomplished?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now there's a good question.
I'd guess that thick cable that appears below the distributor in the first pic and curves across toward the brake MC on the other side has something to do with how it's done.
-Or would that be the clutch cable?

Well either there's some long linkage inside the car reaching over to the other side, or your passenger does the braking. Whatever it is, it's not showing itself in PET.
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leadfoot  



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok the front spoiler , quarter panels and hood scoop are all fiberglass.
These were the easy ones to fit with only a few holes to drill out. The inside of the front quarter comes in a two piece mold and when they are both in place you line over the join and fiberglass over the top. The inner piece is where you reach in behind the wheel near the charcoal cannister.
The rear quarters are a direct mold from a 944 mold but the edge of the fiberglass were filed down so that the egdes of the door jam and gap between the hatch would not be reduced.. In the process of blending in the panel at the rear the 924 badge had to be removed and filled in.
The side skirt were the last to go on and are screwed and bolted into the quarter panel and filled in on the door step after setting of the adhesive.
The rear valance is bolted into the rear quarters as usually done on the 951 with a couple of holes drilled into the undercarrige and some filling back of the bumper to allow for clearance.
The spoiler is eurothaned on with the side pieces having their studs cut and filed down.
I will scan some pics in soon of the panel work.
As for those cables, the one going across the the engine is for the clutch as it had started it's life as an auto and now is a five speed.
Ill have to check out the operation of the brake booster but it is the origional and has not had any problems after the front four stud discs and rear drums were change to 931 five stud disc all round. The rims are also all 7J 15" cookies with 205/50/15 dunlops on the front and 225/55/15 michelins on the rear.
Having the alternator above where the 931's have it might not give me clearance for the blower. I'm coming up with a mount to allow the blower to rotate for better positioning and i'll need to check this.
Has anyone cut their firewall where the battery tray is?? A friend has done this to his ute and measured with a temp probe. He rekons their is a 10/15 degress drop in underbody temperatures. I've noticed that the plastic tube running from the old fuel dissy to the throttle heats up because of the proximity to the thermostat coolant lines.
The air temp sensor is in place just behind the cone filter that underbody with air temps getting up to 60 degrees sometimes. Engine temps are quite high in these cars and I still have to wire in my fan through the ecu though, so I will be able to set it's on temp at any figure now.
Anyone have a theory on the best running temp of these engines. I'm leaning towards around 86 degrees.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
I notice that the brake master cylinder is still on the left side. How is this accomplished?


cunning German techology. On the right-hand cars there's a metal bar that runs across the inside of the firewall from the brake pedal to the brake booster. Simple but effective.

As for $600 for the fuel rail and injectors, remember these are Australian prices and there's a lot less price competition down here

p.s. Great work Leadfoot.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

leadfoot, just wondering if you priced up an M4 vs the Wolf3d? I remember it being fairly close to that but I can't remember if that was the retail or wholesale price.
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924zombie  



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter_in_AU wrote:
Paul wrote:
I notice that the brake master cylinder is still on the left side. How is this accomplished?


cunning German techology. On the right-hand cars there's a metal bar that runs across the inside of the firewall from the brake pedal to the brake booster. Simple but effective.

As for $600 for the fuel rail and injectors, remember these are Australian prices and there's a lot less price competition down here

p.s. Great work Leadfoot.

Is this just a thing for the Australian market??? the uk right hand drive has the brake booster on the right hand side,right in the way of the top joint of the steering column
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah the M4 was more expensive by a few hundred. There were a couple of reasons I went with the wolf system. Namely, a few people had recomended this unit, The tuners I spoke to knew this system alot better and would hence spend less time tuning, It was local manufacture and so parts and servicing are cheaper, downtime for travel was a consideraration and It suited my needs for boost mapping. i.e.
The resolution (or total load bands) can be sized across the board to my maximum boost levels, whereas someone who is running 14psi and above will lose this resolution as more load bands will be needed to map these figures. A N/A will not suffer these problems as the load bands will have greater coverage of the map.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:14 pm    Post subject: engine bay pics and new bodyshop pics added Reply with quote

porsche 924 : 1981 auto not long after purchase

aftermarket rims, 205/50/16

new drivers seat, car starting it's diet

into the body shop we go

front allready done by me, including five stud turbo rotors in the fronts

nice shot of the mini tubs going in

blendin in the panels, a flat panel leaves door jam clearance

The panels are on now, no going back!!

car looks like a checkerboard!!

hey joe how about this for a paint job??

The rear rotors have been done now 7J all round 205/60/15 front
225/55/15 rear

951 rear valance has been added since these photo's

Leadfoot


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent set of photos leadfoot. Very informative. Sorry, that Blues Bros cop car paint job is way too conservative for Joe.


924zombie, that's interesting about the UK cars having the brake booster on the right. I can't vouch for all Aus cars but all the early ones I've seen have the booster on the left side.
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924zombie  



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter_in_AU wrote:
Excellent set of photos leadfoot. Very informative. Sorry, that Blues Bros cop car paint job is way too conservative for Joe.


924zombie, that's interesting about the UK cars having the brake booster on the right. I can't vouch for all Aus cars but all the early ones I've seen have the booster on the left side.

Ignore that,it is on the left,i think i should wake up before i post
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

924zombie wrote:

Is this just a thing for the Australian market??? the uk right hand drive has the brake booster on the right hand side,right in the way of the top joint of the steering column [/quote]
Ignore this,i`ll be awake next time i post honest. Its on the left,same as all the rest
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Paul  



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2004 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, now that we have figured out the brakes, where is the clutch master cylinder on a 931 with RHD?
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SprintStar  



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul wrote:
Ok, now that we have figured out the brakes, where is the clutch master cylinder on a 931 with RHD?


It's on the right side, together with the small reservior. I can get a pic for ya..

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